Dieselbolan v2 cycle advice

[savage84]

Hey guys, I'm going to run my first cycle of Dieselbolan v2 but just have a few questions I'm hoping can be answered. Ive researched here and on the ntbm forums but can't find a definitive answer

Stats are 27yrs, 6'0, 198lbs looking to put on some more size and strength.

Planned cycle

weeks 1-4 dies. v 2.0 3 caps ed spread out
weeks 1-4 Forged liver support 2 ed (would prefer N2guard but is out of stock)
weeks 1-4 Hawthorn berry 1 ed (necessary?? or only if blood pressure rises)
weeks 1-4 Finasteride for hair loss 1 ed (will it hinder gains?)

weeks 1-8 HCGenerate caps ed spread out (want to run it through whole cycle..any harm in running it right through?)

weeks 1-8 Forma Stanzol (dont want to take a chance with gyno.. any harm in running it through the whole cycle?? i've only seen it recommended for pct)

weeks 4-8 post cycle/Unleashed
weeks 4-8 liv52 2 ed (have read a liver support should be run through pct..necessary??)
weeks 4-8 Clomid 25 mg ed (read different posts saying a serm is needed... are the other products enough to run without clomid?? Is there any harm running alongside the rest of the pct products??)

I have read alot about Dieselbolan and cant wait to get started!! appreciate any help

 

[die faster]

yes run forma all the way through. the 13-ethyl in dieselbolan can convert to progesterone and can really bloat you up. 5 pumps am and pm should be good. this is exactly 2 months worth so i always had a 2nd bottle on hand because sometimes when i got too bloated i went up to 7-10 pumps twice a day. your bottle of post cycle already has liver supps in it, so you probably dont need the liv 52. your pct is very solid even without the clomid, mostly the people who havent tried hcgen, unleashed, post cycle etc. are the ones that tell you that you need clomid but its up to you. you were going to run n2guard anyway which has 75 mgs of hawthorne extract, so i would just add it in if you already have it. i cant comment on the finasteride, but i have long hair and i did notice some more coming out in the shower than usual which stopped about a week after my cycle was over. you could look into need2's shampoo.

as for size and strength, diesel put me which im sure is over my genetic max pretty easily. and strength shot way up. for me it always started really kicking in around 5-6 days. at that time i always got headaches for about 2 days then they went away. if you start to get bad sides like loss in appetite, headaches, high bp, dont be afraid to lower the dose a little, i got jsut as good results with 2 caps as i did with 3 but without the sides. this stuff really does a good job of putting your food to work, eat eat eat..... go buy some big tubs of quaker oats and make shakes in the blender with oats, protein, unsalted peanuts, and whole milk. get in plenty of food before bed and keep some protein right next to your bed and drink that shit as soon as you wake up or anytime you get up to go to the bathroom. if you cover all the bases gaining 20 + pounds is very achievable

 

[Stryker1992]

Forma is a very effective product for gyno management and can definitely be run while on cycle. There are no issues with running HCGenerate during 4 weeks of use then pct. I think things look pretty good.

 

[Ranger11B]

i dont think you need to run forma while on at all to be honest id save it for pct unless you you are prone to gyno or start to feel it in the nips. run hcgen while on through pct to pillow you coming off . dump the forged liver support and pick up a bottle of n2guard-this isnt a reccomondation DO IT.

pct -forma stanzol, hcgen, post/unleashed combo

and youll also enjoy a bottle of bridge start it week 4 of pct and youll thank me later.

This is all you need and everything you should have minus the hair shampoo i dont know much about it knock on wood.

if there is one oral steriod i know its d. ive done dv2 and am doing dv1. great roid make sure tyou eat , eat , eat you have to feed this one and if youo do youll gain for sure

 

[Ch3micalGnetics]

im doing the same cycle bro...im on 3rd week and i went from 197 to 207lb till now...no bodyfat gain yet...im running forma from the start at 5pumps am 5pumps pm...but at 4th day i feel sensitive nips...then i wrote a pm to needto to ask for help. He toldme to up the forma 10pumps am, 10pumps pm. I just did that and im ok!! Forma is amazing...

i dont speak english very well...so i hope you understand me...

 

[Stryker1992]

i dont think you need to run forma while on at all to be honest id save it for pct unless you you are prone to gyno or start to feel it in the nips. run hcgen while on through pct to pillow you coming off . dump the forged liver support and pick up a bottle of n2guard-this isnt a reccomondation DO IT.

pct -forma stanzol, hcgen, post/unleashed combo

and youll also enjoy a bottle of bridge start it week 4 of pct and youll thank me later.

This is all you need and everything you should have minus the hair shampoo i dont know much about it knock on wood.

if there is one oral steriod i know its d. ive done dv2 and am doing dv1. great roid make sure tyou eat , eat , eat you have to feed this one and if youo do youll gain for sure

Form assist with controlling estrogen and progesterone and this could possibly be an issue with dv2 so he should run forma. It also helps to minimize shut down.

 

[Ranger11B]

hcgen will be enough to stop shut down, and dv can cause gyno but its not enough for me to justify the 50 bucks for it as a precaution. Im not doubting its abilities at all, i would just hold off unless he feels it in the nips then go head and apply to chest since it localized 8-10 pumps. i ran dv2 with no forma on , 0 problems on dv1 now 0 problems.

 

[die faster]

hcgen will be enough to stop shut down, and dv can cause gyno but its not enough for me to justify the 50 bucks for it as a precaution. Im not doubting its abilities at all, i would just hold off unless he feels it in the nips then go head and apply to chest since it localized 8-10 pumps. i ran dv2 with no forma on , 0 problems on dv1 now 0 problems.

really man this is the advice you give? forget trying to prevent gyno and just wait till you get it to use an ai/anti progesterone? the AI effects arent localized, the formestane builds up in your blood over 2 weeks. i have some gyno and can easily tell what is aggravating it. the 13 ethyl is really underestimated just because its a legal supp and called a "pro hormone". its similar to deca and i always keep dostinex on hand when using it just to be safe. and yes ive had to use it before. 5 pumps twice a day will last 8 weeks, enough for the cycle and pct. the 2nd bottle i reccomended can always be saved, i always have at least one in my stash

 

[Ranger11B]

really man this is the advice you give? forget trying to prevent gyno and just wait till you get it to use an AI/anti progesterone? the AI effects arent localized, the Formestane builds up in your blood over 2 weeks. i have some gyno and can easily tell what is aggravating it. the 13 ethyl is really underestimated just because its a legal supp and called a "pro hormone". its similar to deca and i always keep dostinex on hand when using it just to be safe. and yes ive had to use it before. 5 pumps twice a day will last 8 weeks, enough for the cycle and PCT. the 2nd bottle i reccomended can always be saved, i always have at least one in my stash

yes considering the dv is only possible not a def. and if any started to develope with dv forma will reverse it and it is localized im pretty sure. I and a million others have run dv without forma or anything else other than hcgen while on and have been completely fine, plus i was 40mg ed. can dv cause gyno yes, can you be super safe and use it while on to prevent yes, is this somthing that will def cuase it or give you an issue requiring arimidex or anything else while on no. im not downing the idea i just said it really could be saved for pct with a cycle like this. hell he could start it in week two or 3 and run through and be just as safe. unless again as i stated in my previous post he is prone to it

 

[Ranger11B]

at the eod of the day op its your body, money, and cycle . DV is not so serious to REQUIRE this precaution but if you want to be proactive and have the extra funds go for it, it will only help. as i stated above myself and a large group have run this cycle, your not boosting it with test or anything its a run of the mill dv cycle, and we have not used forma while on and have been fine. some people are more sensitive to it than others and if you fall into this catagory then i agree 100 percent with the idea. Again nothing wrong with doing it it basically just comes down to saving some money and only using what you need when you need it.