Dieselbolan v 2.0 / Epi strong cycle

[markluv]

I'm going to be running a PH cycle. This will be my first PH cycle. I've cycled AAS in the past. I'm looking to gain 15-20lbs (not expecting that from a single cycle although that would be nice). My first question is do I need a Test base with this? I've seen a lot of logs of people running these compounds with no test base and getting good results. I'm not as educated on PH but very educated on AAS. I recently (2 weeks ago) came off my AAS cycle and was planning on staying off for a good year but caught the flu day 1 of PCT and i've lost 15 lbs. My plan is to stop my PCT and try this PH cycle and hopefully put my size back on, go through a proper PCT and then stay natural for a good year.

Stats:
27
6'7
220
11% bodyfat
diet is good to go

 

[Rockwilder]

What was the AAS cycle you ran? What is your PCT?

Either way, if you stop your PCT and run more compounds, you are just basically just staying on [BTW, Diesel V2.0 and Epi are not PH, they are AAS as well]. You should not stack those 2 oral compounds anyway, as they are both methylated.

Even though you got sick and lost weight, and that sucks...you should still run your PCT as is, and take the necessary time off IMO. Also, if you took the necessary time off and ran them with a test base, you would get better results, even though you CAN run them solo. You could jump-start the cycle with Diesel, and polish it off with Epi. But, I definitely do not think you should be reckless and just jump back into a cycle because you didn't get the results you wanted.

 

[markluv]

I've ran the following cycles:

Test P 100mg E3D
NPP 200mg M,W,F
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Test P 100mg E3D
Tren Ace 50mg ED
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Test E 500mg a week
Deca 300mg a week

PCT:

clomid - 100/100/50/50
nolvadex - 40/40/20/20
Forma stanzol 4 pumps am 4 pumps pm


Hairloss - Do you think these compounds would be less harsh on the hair compared to the AAS cycles i've ran in the pass?

 

[noodles1010]

I've ran the following cycles:

Test P 100mg E3D
NPP 200mg M,W,F
_________________

Test P 100mg E3D
Tren Ace 50mg ED
_________________

Test E 500mg a week
Deca 300mg a week

PCT:

clomid - 100/100/50/50
nolvadex - 40/40/20/20
Forma stanzol 4 pumps am 4 pumps pm


Hairloss - Do you think these compounds would be less harsh on the hair compared to the AAS cycles i've ran in the pass?

I'd be curious to see your blood work bro. Your prolactin has gotta be crazy. That pct would neverrrrr work for me. I need crazy pct after a cycle. And running nolvadex on 19nors?!? Big no no my friend.

 

[Rockwilder]

First off, that's not the PCT you want to be running. Especially if you're saying your last cycle had Deca in it...you never run Nolva with after a 19-Nor compound. And honestly, if you read up on this site, you'll see why you should never run Nolva for anything at all.

For PCT, keep the Clomid, but lower the dose to 25/25/25/25, as it's not necessary to run it that high. You'll get all the benefits and less of the sides at 25 mg a day. I would run your PCT like this:

Clomid 25/25/25/25
Post-Cycle/Unleashed Combo
Forma
DAA or another test booster

As for your question, I didn't have any hair problems with Diesel when I ran it, but I believe it is possible. I also think it's possible with Epi as well, but I'm not completely sure how it compares with injectibles. I'm sure someone will chime in about that.

 

[Rockwilder]

And running nolvadex on 19nors?!? Big no no my friend.

You beat me by a few minutes bro lol.

But yeah dude seriously, did you run anything for prolactin at all?

 

[markluv]

Let me clarify my last cycle and i'm sorry for not being more specific. My last cycle was test p and NPP. I should have listed them in a different order. Also I cruised on Test P 6 weeks after stopping the NPP. Thats why I didn't hesitate adding nolva into my PCT. I did not have any prolactin issues. I was taking .05mg of caber M,TH to help keep the prolactin sides down. I wanted to come off because I've been suffering from pretty bad hairloss.

I had a full hormone panel done right before I started my PCT and should have it back soon. I can post results for those interested.

 

[stevesmi]

6 7 you are a big boy. make sure you are taking joint support as well here, you tall dudes are more prone to joint issues.

also you are making this way too complicated.

deisel and epi are NOT pro hormones, they are sold as them only for legal purposes. but they need to be treated just like any oral AAS because that is what they are.

secondly no need to run a SERM for pct with them as long as you keep it at 6 weeks or less. a simple DAA and unleashed pct will do the trick here.

 

[needtogetaas]

I'm going to be running a PH cycle. This will be my first PH cycle. I've cycled AAS in the past. I'm looking to gain 15-20lbs (not expecting that from a single cycle although that would be nice). My first question is do I need a Test base with this? I've seen a lot of logs of people running these compounds with no test base and getting good results. I'm not as educated on PH but very educated on AAS. I recently (2 weeks ago) came off my AAS cycle and was planning on staying off for a good year but caught the flu day 1 of PCT and i've lost 15 lbs. My plan is to stop my PCT and try this PH cycle and hopefully put my size back on, go through a proper PCT and then stay natural for a good year.

Stats:
27
6'7
220
11% bodyfat
diet is good to go

I guess its only right I chime in on this here thread

If you want to add to the cycle then just add to the cycle its not going to kill you.. Some would tell you that you cant stack the two but yes you can. However no real point your goal is to stack on weight quickly and that is what deiselbolan is for so just run that shit bro...

Weeks
1-4 deiselboan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 N2-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 cap pm very day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 Power chews-DAA 1 full dose every day (optional)
8-12 Sarms S4 25mg every other day ( optional)

You may want to maybe do a bridge of sorts between the cycles allow for some recovery on your body my friend... You can chill out on some sarms S-4 25mg am and pm for a few weeks. Even add in some peptides like Igf-Des 45mcg pre and post work out with 20 grams of carbs or more each time... GHRP-2 100mcg am and pm... Id be tapping myself with GH right now but thats just me

If you need any help pm me.. YA YA guys I am getting to all my pm's this week trust me ..

 

[markluv]

I guess its only right I chime in on this here thread

If you want to add to the cycle then just add to the cycle its not going to kill you.. Some would tell you that you cant stack the two but yes you can. However no real point your goal is to stack on weight quickly and that is what deiselbolan is for so just run that shit bro...

Weeks
1-4 deiselboan 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 N2-guard 7 caps every day
1-4 hcgenerate 3 caps am 2 cap pm very day
1-4 Bridge 2 caps 3 times a day
4-8 unleashed and post cycle 1 caps of each 3 times a day
4-10 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and pm the first 4 weeks then drop
Down to 3 am and pm for the last 2 weeks
4-8 Power chews-DAA 1 full dose every day (optional)
8-12 Sarms S4 25mg every other day ( optional)

You may want to maybe do a bridge of sorts between the cycles allow for some recovery on your body my friend... You can chill out on some sarms S-4 25mg am and pm for a few weeks. Even add in some peptides like Igf-Des 45mcg pre and post work out with 20 grams of carbs or more each time... GHRP-2 100mcg am and pm... Id be tapping myself with GH right now but thats just me

If you need any help pm me.. YA YA guys I am getting to all my pm's this week trust me ..

Thanks for chiming in with a very informational post. Greatly appreciated. If I left the Epi strong in with the diselbolan I could expect to still put on the mass I want but cut some body fat and lean out some in addition to the mass correct? I've seen other run the EPI at 2 pills a day for 6 weeks. Would you suggest this or stick to the one compound and see how I do?

 

[needtogetaas]

Thanks for chiming in with a very informational post. Greatly appreciated. If I left the Epi strong in with the diselbolan I could expect to still put on the mass I want but cut some body fat and lean out some in addition to the mass correct? I've seen other run the EPI at 2 pills a day for 6 weeks. Would you suggest this or stick to the one compound and see how I do?

Add in Need2slin if you want to lean it out along with some forged bromo.