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did tren tranform your body?

al420 said:
I ran Tren w/ Test P for 22 weeks. Added almost 50 kilos to my total. Also went down a weigh class.

Below is 1 yr diff. I ran Tren for the majority of the year, and DO NOT eat clean EVER. I stay around 3500-4000 cals a day dfuring the week and closer to 6k on the weekends.

I typically run it at 50mg/day for 4 weeks, 75mg/day for 4 weeks, 100mg/day for 4 weeks, and then stop taking it for 5-8 weeks.

I stay on Test.
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Damn, you were a real twinky before. Did you at least get in shape before you started your cycle?
 
Im going to start a Test P/ Tren Enth cycle soon. One question.... do I need to continue running the Test P a week or two after I finish the Tren?
 
cant u just do the pellets transdermally?

cant u crush up the pellets in transdermal cream ? KI have read where this works really well Thse skin absorbs it well

Any info on this, I would like to try it out
 
Re: cant u just do the pellets transdermally?

jrlean said:
cant u crush up the pellets in transdermal cream ? KI have read where this works really well Thse skin absorbs it well

Any info on this, I would like to try it out
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just make it the old fashioned way bro! it works the best that way
 
Just read this whole thread...definately want to use tren now!

I want to do a cutting cycle. wk 1-10 200mg test E, wk 1-6 75mg tren a EOD. Is that enough test for what I want to do? What ancillaries will I need besides arimidex, dostinex? Is clomid neccassary for pct? And will I need to run HCG....
 
goku_kakarot77 said:
lets here it guys, what did you run it with, how much, how long, when did it kick in , how much you gained and was there loss in BF, how was vascularity.. this will be interesting

peace
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Tren and prop for up to 12 weeks and HELL YEAH! Exceptional...

100mg eod of both.
 
krisiun, I ran prop/tren/dbol several times and liked it a lot. 100mg prop eod, 75mg tren eod for 8 weeks and 25mg dbol for first four weeks. Very good strengh, and I droped several percent of body fat and gain some good muscle. I was on a clean cutting diet.
 
What's up guys. I just started my tren cycle. Im taking
Testosterone E. 500 mg/wk
Tren E. 400 mg/wk
Im splitting the dosages and take an injection twice a week. I just did my first injection on Thursday and it went smoothly
 
Honestly it completely changed me I am now forever vascular it seems, my chest widened my arms got vascular bi ceps changed shape. On the negative side:negatively changed my mood for a long ass time. Honestly I recommend high dose of masteron/winny and prop with a really good diet and you will experience something similar but it wont be nearly as drastic, its a love hate thing. I know personally I will never touch it again I hated the sides and the depression/mood swings that were ,yes very controlable yet annoying, were not even close to worth it. Unless your career is resting on a drastic change in physique and strength I really would never advocate the use of tren for recreational aesthetic purposes. Tren is very toxic in ways that we as a community probably dont even understand or know..... just saying.
 
plus44racer182 said:
Honestly it completely changed me I am now forever vascular it seems, my chest widened my arms got vascular bi ceps changed shape. On the negative side:negatively changed my mood for a long ass time. Honestly I recommend high dose of masteron/winny and prop with a really good diet and you will experience something similar but it wont be nearly as drastic, its a love hate thing. I know personally I will never touch it again I hated the sides and the depression/mood swings that were ,yes very controlable yet annoying, were not even close to worth it. Unless your career is resting on a drastic change in physique and strength I really would never advocate the use of tren for recreational aesthetic purposes. Tren is very toxic in ways that we as a community probably dont even understand or know..... just saying.
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tren may be hard on the system but not worse then some other things imo..noroof has shown to be toxic to kidneys
 
Quick question, is it possible to do a whole cycle with tren and not get the cough? Haven't gotten that yet but I do have a metal taste in the back of my mouth when I inject
 
I did a test only cycle 6 months ago and made 7 Lbs of gains.
I am in week 4 of 250mg Test, 250 EQ, & 100mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate one injection per week
So far I have gained more & better looking muscle & strength in 4 weeks than the whole 12 week test only cycle of 600mg/week

The sides have been minimal because they are low/non aromatising compounds except the test that is
 
Hi. Two and a half weeks in and amazing. Body fat visibly dropping off. Running hot. Trouble sleeping but not to bad. Not every night anyway. Doing 50 tren a ed. 50 prop ed. will add whinny for last six weeks. Muscles sore from ed injections but just going to suck it up coz the results do far are amazing. Worth the pain .
 
I'm taking tren, test prop. And I was wandering is it ok to take nolva in case of lumps. Cause I herd you can't take nolva on tren
 
I ran a cycle of tren acetate 75mgs eod,with test prop 100mg eod,stacked with equipoise 600mgs a week for 12 weeks

in the past I had ran a cycle of tren a with sustanon without the equipoise and it winded the hell out of me,my cardio ability became that of a hardcore chain smoker.so this time I was prepared a little better.the equipoise entirely overcame the effects of tren on my breathing ability

my bodyfat percentage dropped dramatically,but I actually put on mass I was really impressed.from everything I had heard I was worried about my natural testosterone production being shut down from tren,but with pct it wasn't a problem at all.

pct consisted of hcg,nolva,and clomid

I kept most of my gains,lost some of my strength,but overall was really happy with the results.
one thing I didn't like was the night sweats and the effects tren had on my sleeping patterns which made me moody and screwed with my moods making my fuse really short.
 
THIS THREAD OWNS! OMG!! :D

I just READ it all... took three frikkin' days...

ttt!! Prop/Tren/Mast staring March 05th... It's a blend of 100mg each... 20ml bottle...

I want to either do:

1 - 6 50mg ED Blend
7 - 12 50mg ED Prop only

OR...

1 - 12 50mg ED Blend (if I can handle it...)
13 - 16 50mg ED Prop

Thoughts?

Age: 35

I'm 5'11 190 and around 12%... previous cycles were 250mg sus/week for 8 weeks like 239472347 years ago... Umm then two test/deca/dbol cycles and most recently test 300mg week and eq 300mg week... I just wanna give this tren business a shot! I haven't ever gone over 500mg test a week... and generally keep things pretty low...

I'll take a before snap as well!
 
Oh... Also:

Week 3 - End (before PCT):

250ius of HCG and 1.25 - 2.5mg Letro 2 x week:

Should I choose to stay on longer... I'll likely go:

Weeks 3 - 8 250ius x week
Weeks 12 - 16 250ius x week

When I'm done, I think I'm going to give the stasis taper a whirl...

This is not to be confused with the old school 'test taper' method. The Stasis taper is something Protocol came out with years ago on T-nation.

Stasis Taper

The idea here being that <100mg test a day should not be supressive, and should allow the start of recovery. It's kind of a way of softening the landing when you start your Serms. Seems much more hormonally forgiving the your traditional blunt ending, and starting of serms...

For that I'll likely use the prop for 4 weeks alone past the tren @50mg/day, then do 100mg week for 6 weeks, and go 80 60 50 40 30 20 (per week) along with nolva @ 40/40/30/30/20/20...



So all laid out:

Weeks 1 - 12 50mg/day of prop/tren/mast blend (if I can hack it, other wise I'll just run it 6)
Weeks 13 - 16 50mg/day prop
Weeks 17 - 22 100mg prop/week (split up EOD)
weeks 23 - 28 80/60/50/40/30/20 prop
weeks 23 - 28 40/40/30/30/20/20 Nolva
 
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*note - as IF I've been a member here since 2002! WTF!! lol
 
Awesome thread .. not read each and every one. Bout to do my 1st cycle w tren. Something I have not seen is-- anyone used or had to use bromo or caber w the tren? Is so, did u use all the way thru or as needed? Dosage? Thx
 
Hey Max... There's a BUNCH of info on caber, and bromo... Just fire both of those into the search up there, and you should get a bunch of answers...

Good luck! :D
 
Agree killer thread.....I am barely on page 3!

Love running tren, the bf% drop and vascularity is incredible!!! Plus the crazy dreams make it even more worthwhile.
 
Running tren ace 500mg/wk admin eod and sust300 600mg/wk. I have seen a big differance with the tren, ive lost 5% bf and gained almost 10 pounds. I love this stuff! The only Thing that sucks is I eat like crazy and it gets expensive lol


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Monchie said:
Quick question, is it possible to do a whole cycle with tren and not get the cough? Haven't gotten that yet but I do have a metal taste in the back of my mouth when I inject
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Never had the cough or that taste before. I can smell it about 10 sec after I inject but it's real brief. A guy I know took tren and said it's normal to experience the metallic taste but it normally doesn't hit you till the end and thats how you know to back off.


Hunter Of Gunmen
 
Here's a small vid of my before Tren... Should be interesting:

 
Ok... well Day one started last night.. GOOD THINGS to come... 50mg of the mix ED... Prop/Tren/Mast/ YYYYEAAAHHHHH BUDDY!
 
So... how 'bout that tren cough? lol... after 14 days... I got that today... I'd say it's more or less like taking a REALLY BIG BONG HIT... lol.. when you get short of breath, a mild burning, then cough... kinda ballz... but not that bad... :)
 
So far I have NONE... zero... been taking 4000iu Vit D a day... and I'm usually VERY acne prone so..
 
I can't wait to pop my first non-oral cycle cherry. I was very skeptical about Tren and the sides associated with it, but it looks that the results out weigh the sides. I will run tren ace and test e next winter. I can't fuarkin wait!
 
fived said:
I can't wait to pop my first non-oral cycle cherry. I was very skeptical about Tren and the sides associated with it, but it looks that the results out weigh the sides. I will run tren ace and test e next winter. I can't fuarkin wait!
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dude..are you insane? is this your first time, and your doing TREN?
 
Considering it's usually dosed @ 100mg per ml... .3mg would be a pin drop worth... so no... now if you meant 30mg a day.. then I'd say sure... it's a good starting point... I ran it @ 25mg ED... and it worked great.. :D
 
Love reading some of the tren stories on here. I really like reading the ones that say how they started at 20% bf and got shredded with tren. Even not even eating that clean. Amazing. I've seen soo many people cycle at 20% bf or higher and get lean. I don't know
why everyone always says not to touch a cycle unless your 14% or lower. Not everyone wants to "compete" or is worried about being 6%. Lol. Tren is amazing.
 
Glad I read this thread! Took several hours, lol. I did my first cycle back in 2001, and NOTHING (for me) worked better than Tren. I remember having one REALLY bad night sweat, and that was about it. Honest truth, I have more acne when I'm NOT taking anything. I haven't done a cycle in about 9 years, and I'm getting the itch: Test Prop./Tren/maybe some EQ. I remember shooting EOD and had really good results. Would love to try ED this time around to avoid the moodiness.
 
Was tinking about doing tren and test 400 wat yous tink.. You have to take anti estren tabs aswell while ur on dat don't u I don't really know
 
good lord this is an old thread.

i would say tren is great on cycle but after cycle with no base your gains will evaporate and you will put on fat fast. its a poor choice for those who want to keep their gains. no one, unless they are severely below their genetic potential can tell me with a straight face they kept their strength after tren. it will give you unrealistic and crazy strength gains, but it can be a mind fuck when your bench press drops 30 pounds a month after you are done with it..

hence why newbs should stay away, once you get used to setting PR's its gonna be hard to ever go back to other AAS. tren really is king. its like driving a BMW for 10 years and then driving a ford.
 
I used tren for mass so I didnt see crazy strength gains. I did it ED for 42 straight days, pinning glutes and ventro glute. Stacked with 500 mg Test E. Gained 32 lbs. While dropping bodyfat too. 205 lb 14%bf to 232 lb 10-11% bf. :) Awesome stuff.

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brainacid said:
I used tren for mass so I didnt see crazy strength gains. I did it ED for 42 straight days, pinning glutes and ventro glute. Stacked with 500 mg Test E. Gained 32 lbs. While dropping bodyfat too. 205 lb 14%bf to 232 lb 10-11% bf. :) Awesome stuff.

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Holy shit, how long did it take to lose all those gains
 
well what the hell do all you gurus cycle?!?!? I like primo but it make my libido go to shit. I wish i could stack primo and winny because it does my body good. I cant get schering primo but found a brand that is just as good. I guess you have to stack some test with primo to avoid libido issues and i dont like test. Who dat!
 
louisiana said:
well what the hell do all you gurus cycle?!?!? I like primo but it make my libido go to shit. I wish i could stack primo and winny because it does my body good. I cant get schering primo but found a brand that is just as good. I guess you have to stack some test with primo to avoid libido issues and i dont like test. Who dat!
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How can you not like test bor?
 
One more pin of Test E tomorrow. Lost 5 lbs of fat and water, reduced waist from 37 to 35". Arm vascularity increased. Feeling great. Strength still rocking. Recovery still good and sleep is better, dont wake up in the middle of the night but once to piss. Libido is great. After last pin going on TRT 200 mg Test Cyp once a week pin and 250iu HCG 2x wk, Forma Stanzol 10 pumps split am/pm. After a 6 weeks on TRT plan is Deca 500 mg wk for 12 wks w/ Prami for prolactin control. Lets see what happens.

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stevesmi said:
good lord this is an old thread.

i would say tren is great on cycle but after cycle with no base your gains will evaporate and you will put on fat fast. its a poor choice for those who want to keep their gains. no one, unless they are severely below their genetic potential can tell me with a straight face they kept their strength after tren. it will give you unrealistic and crazy strength gains, but it can be a mind fuck when your bench press drops 30 pounds a month after you are done with it..

hence why newbs should stay away, once you get used to setting PR's its gonna be hard to ever go back to other AAS. tren really is king. its like driving a BMW for 10 years and then driving a ford.
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I agree, tren helped me put on lean muscle fast, insane strength gains but as soon as I stopped, within a month bench dropped 30-40lbs EASY and fat came back on quick :( overall I wasn't too impressed with it though. Don't plan on running it again
 
In the past, the principal reason for Equipoise’s use was it’s easy availability as a Mexican veterinary product. Presently, for the most part there is little specific reason to use Equipoise in an anabolic steroid cycle. There is nothing that it does anabolically that Masteron, Primobolan, Deca, or trenbolone will not do. In terms of side effects, likewise it has no advantage over Masteron or Primobolan, unless one desires the occasional side effect of increased appetite, or the side effect of its moderate conversion to estrogen. This can be useful if no other aromatizing steroid is being used.

Effectiveness of Equipoise

This is not intended to disparage the compound: it certainly can be put to good use in a steroid cycle. Its potency (effect per milligram) is comparable to most other injectable steroids, though less than that of trenbolone, and so for example addition of 400 mg/week is a substantial boost to most cycles. Alternately, if substituting boldenone for another injectable this can be done on a milligram-for-milligram basis.

Half-Life of Equipoise

A serious drawback of Equipoise is its long half-life, which is probably at least 12 days. This results in an extended period of time after the last injection during which levels are neither sufficiently high for optimal anabolism, nor low enough to allow recovery to occur. A solution for this problem is to use Equipoise in only the earlier part of a cycle.

Frontloading Equipoise

Another effect of the long half-life is that to achieve reasonably prompt effect, a large frontload is needed. I recommend that the first injection be an amount equal to 1.7 – 1.8 times the amount that will be used per week, plus the amount of the usual injection. So if for example the ongoing dosing will be 200 mg twice per week, on the first day the frontload should be about 900 mg.

Most do not do this, and as a result they experience little effect from Equipoise until many weeks into the cycle. For this reason, it’s widely claimed that Equipoise cycles need to be long or otherwise they do not work, but this really is not so. Instead the problem is failure to frontload, or failure to fronload sufficiently.

Another solution is to use the propionate ester, which now has some limited availability in powder form.

Equipoise Side Effects

Boldenone is metabolized by aromatase to estradiol, but to a lesser a degree than testosterone. It also is metabolized by the 5-AR enzyme, in this case to 17b-hydroxyandrost-1-ene-3-one, commonly but incorrectly called “1-testosterone” and sometimes called dihydroboldenone. This molecule’s potency is similar to that of boldenone, so the molecule is neither potentiated or deactivated by the 5-AR enzyme and therefore that metabolism is unimportant.

Stacking Equipoise with Other Steroids

Boldenone might be used in a couple of interesting ways, for example in combination with trenbolone to allow a lower dose of trenbolone while retaining similar anabolic effect and providing a needed amount of aromatizing steroid. It might also combined with Masteron or Primobolan, instead of testosterone, in self-prescribed HRT. The advantage would be reduced production of DHT. However, these uses have yet to be much explored.

But in general, for most Equipoise is not a first-call anabolic steroid. Not for reason of any real lacks, but simply because there are other choices that generally will work as well for the overall cycle plan.

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brainacid said:
In the past, the principal reason for Equipoise’s use was it’s easy availability as a Mexican veterinary product. Presently, for the most part there is little specific reason to use Equipoise in an anabolic steroid cycle. There is nothing that it does anabolically that Masteron, Primobolan, Deca, or trenbolone will not do. In terms of side effects, likewise it has no advantage over Masteron or Primobolan, unless one desires the occasional side effect of increased appetite, or the side effect of its moderate conversion to estrogen. This can be useful if no other aromatizing steroid is being used.

Effectiveness of Equipoise

This is not intended to disparage the compound: it certainly can be put to good use in a steroid cycle. Its potency (effect per milligram) is comparable to most other injectable steroids, though less than that of trenbolone, and so for example addition of 400 mg/week is a substantial boost to most cycles. Alternately, if substituting boldenone for another injectable this can be done on a milligram-for-milligram basis.

Half-Life of Equipoise

A serious drawback of Equipoise is its long half-life, which is probably at least 12 days. This results in an extended period of time after the last injection during which levels are neither sufficiently high for optimal anabolism, nor low enough to allow recovery to occur. A solution for this problem is to use Equipoise in only the earlier part of a cycle.

Frontloading Equipoise

Another effect of the long half-life is that to achieve reasonably prompt effect, a large frontload is needed. I recommend that the first injection be an amount equal to 1.7 – 1.8 times the amount that will be used per week, plus the amount of the usual injection. So if for example the ongoing dosing will be 200 mg twice per week, on the first day the frontload should be about 900 mg.

Most do not do this, and as a result they experience little effect from Equipoise until many weeks into the cycle. For this reason, it’s widely claimed that Equipoise cycles need to be long or otherwise they do not work, but this really is not so. Instead the problem is failure to frontload, or failure to fronload sufficiently.

Another solution is to use the propionate ester, which now has some limited availability in powder form.

Equipoise Side Effects

Boldenone is metabolized by aromatase to estradiol, but to a lesser a degree than testosterone. It also is metabolized by the 5-AR enzyme, in this case to 17b-hydroxyandrost-1-ene-3-one, commonly but incorrectly called “1-testosterone” and sometimes called dihydroboldenone. This molecule’s potency is similar to that of boldenone, so the molecule is neither potentiated or deactivated by the 5-AR enzyme and therefore that metabolism is unimportant.

Stacking Equipoise with Other Steroids

Boldenone might be used in a couple of interesting ways, for example in combination with trenbolone to allow a lower dose of trenbolone while retaining similar anabolic effect and providing a needed amount of aromatizing steroid. It might also combined with Masteron or Primobolan, instead of testosterone, in self-prescribed HRT. The advantage would be reduced production of DHT. However, these uses have yet to be much explored.

But in general, for most Equipoise is not a first-call anabolic steroid. Not for reason of any real lacks, but simply because there are other choices that generally will work as well for the overall cycle plan.

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Thats not exactly an essay against EQ. The reason I like EQ is low bloat, high anabolic ratio, appetite increase, availability, price, low counterfeit rate, and best of all no prolactin and shutdown is less than with a 19-nor
 
I know it's old but it's a good thread


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Tren is a love/hate compound for me. It leans me out and makes me strong but it works so well I hate stopping it. I always gear for my health when using tren. It's harsh!
 
Trenbolone is an extremely strong and powerful steroid. It has an androgenic:anabolic ratio of 500 : 500. Testosterone in comparison is 100 : 100

what people often don't know about tren is that it can actually lead to insulin resistance. If you have a high level of body fat, your insulin sensitivity will be poor to begin with and tren isn't the best steroid option for you. Tren is best for lean individuals.
 
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