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Did the old school juicers use ancilleries?

Back in the 80's the only PCT (and it certainly wasn't called that!) I ever heard of was 2 shots of 5000iu hcg spaced a week apart. That was considered cutting edge! I still maintain that a 20 something healthy male needs very little PCT......Now at my age I am just learning what PCT can do.
 
medrep said:
i've been asking whatever happended to tapering since i rejoined this board. even up to 6 years ago every cycle that was posted here tapered at the end


Yeah, what ever happened to tapering and pyramid cycles, that book that bill phillips wrote years ago before EAS, he talks about tapers and diamonds, pyramids, and blitz cycles. How come there is no discussion of these methods here???
 
Twoguns said:
Yeah, what ever happened to tapering and pyramid cycles, that book that bill phillips wrote years ago before EAS, he talks about tapers and diamonds, pyramids, and blitz cycles. How come there is no discussion of these methods here???
Because it is all about selling gear and ancillaries now. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but welcome to the internet.
 
From what i saw weather you taper or not your body still is overloaded with gear so your body will not start to produce untill its empty
that is what i read in anabolics 2006 ver.
 
my cycles with deca would often lead to a crash afterwords but test and primo and a long slow taper with daily oral use like var provided a smooth transition. i first used clomid in the early 80s and nolvadex and hcg in 1985. never had any gyno issues until I shot the hcg for pct, without proper anti-estrogen protection. adex, etc. were undiscovered at that point
 
I started in the mid 80's and the only steroid book available to me at the time made no mention of any resembling pct. I remember it recommended -- get this -- evening primrose oil to speed along recovery. We could pick up organon 250 and deca harpoons for $5/. The var we were using turned out to be methyltest but came in a sprisingly authentic looking bottle. Lots of bros preferred to shoot dbol rather than swallow. It seemed that most of the really serious bodybuilders were gay, but that doesn't seem to be so much the case today. Everyone used a diamond cycle pattern. Start with low doses, build up, taper down. I got edema real bad every cycle.
 
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