D
dballer
Guest
Holy shit!!!!
You cannot ban him.. he is a shit starter... there has to be some good shit starters here.
You cannot ban him.. he is a shit starter... there has to be some good shit starters here.
dballer said:I am the old one.. I am never here anymore.. someone needs to carry the torch.
So really, is he banned?
dballer said:I am the old one.. I am never here anymore.. someone needs to carry the torch.
So really, is he banned?
Darktooth said:
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
TheProject said:I'm more upset by Code's banning than Puc's.
TheProject said:I'm more upset by Code's banning than Puc's.
what? code was banned too?TheProject said:I'm more upset by Code's banning than Puc's.
TheProject said:I'm more upset by Code's banning than Puc's.
Citruscide said:
Yeah... that sucked. Let me guess... because of his platinum membership bashing ways?? He always had alot to say about that...
C-ditty
big4life said:
So, all they banning anyone who criticizes the site or the moderators, or just non platinum members who vcoice an opinion?![]()
TheProject said:
I don't think it's taboo to criticize the mods.
big4life said:
I think that it dpends on the mod., some of them get very offended if you question them, while others seem to have an open mind and will at least listen.
TheProject said:
Yep...Code was banned for telling the truth, basically.
When I heard about that, I asked if I was going to get banned for complaining about not getting the features that I'm paying for.
Apparently it's okay for me to say it because my money's in the bank.
Citruscide said:
Heh... George said on a post that they are getting like TONS of new hardware and software ... something about being able to fix all the problems with platinum memberships (PM box and shit --- I"M ASSUMING)... I can't remember the post, but it was on one that someone was compliaining about the SPEED of the site.
I hope that stuff gets set up soon. Funny thing was, Code wasn't a plat member, was he???![]()
I don't think complaining about not getting what you paid for is bannable... (heh?) But from a business standpoint of GS, I can understand how he wouldn't like someone TOTALLY thrashing his shit... ya know?
--- I'm not saying it should have been BANNABLE however...
C-ditty
TheProject said:
Perhaps if George didn't like someone thrashing his shit, it should get fixed. Platinum hasn't worked right from the get-go.
Citruscide said:
From MY understanding... at least from the post that George made... is that they HAVE ordered the hardware and new software updates for the site... (It didn't say THAT, but I'm inferring) -- it said something to the effect that 17,000$ of stuff is on the way, and things should be fixed up soon...
Any problem I've EVER had with Plat, I've PM'd and it was fixed relatively quickly... granted, there are some flaws... but for the most part... I like Platinums gallary ... I can store AS many pics as I want there, and link them to friends on the web... it's like I have my own storage website for pics!
C-ditty
dballer said:I do not think George banned him.
TheProject said:
Well, my interpretation of George's post was that the new hardware would correct the performance issues, but nothing has been said about the other technical issues...like being able to have more than 100 PM's. I e-mailed EFChris about that one, and he told me to empty my Sent Items.
It's been so long since I bitched about it, I'll have to look up the other stuff again. I just accepted the fact that I was paying to support the site, not to get additional features, which is fine. However, don't promise me stuff I'm not going to get.
TheProject said:
Who? Puc or Code?
I've been told that George personally banned Code.
EF Sam said:
TheProject,
I understand your issues and have sent you in PM a detail of why the issues are there and how we will fix them. You are a valued member of the board and it isn't pleasing to see negative comments being made on an open forum. However, I do understand your complaints and they will be addressed. I also understand that support has not been here for you on the boards and that has now changed. So if you need help, please PM me or email me direct. I promise an answer in 24 hours.
For the rest of you,
The technical issues are a result of the vbulletin software that runs the site. There is a fix and an upgrade coming out in the not to distant future that will resolve the issues that some paying members are having.
For those of you that help support the site, we thank you very much. It is because of you that we can continue to operate.![]()
TheProject said:
Sam,
It has never been an issue of me having been unhappy with my membership. As I have said, I pay to support the site, and have no problem supporting the site. My issue comes from the fact that we were promised these features for becoming Platinum, the features did not work at rollout, and to this date, still do not work. We have NEVER been told, until this point, why there were issues and what the plan was to fix them. I have been a paying member for almost a year as I recall, and this is the first time that I've heard anything remotely resembling an explanation.
Furthermore, I've been one of the biggest proponents of the philosophy that free speech DOES NOT reign here and that George has the right to ban anyone he sees fit for whatever reason he sees fit, but to simply ban Code for pointing out the flaws even pushes me a little too far.
Code was a valuable, contributing member, and while I realize the focus of this site is to make money, it seems to me that if the focus is going to be to ban those members who vocalize their problems as opposed to fixing the problems...something is wrong.
distanced said:karma for what?
EF Sam said:
I have awarded you an 100+ karma points, taking you from 1157 to 1300.![]()
EF Sam said:
I have awarded you an 100+ karma points, taking you from 1157 to 1300.![]()
mylife said:
woo hoo project! sam that's 143 points, not 100.
how much is platinum anyways? i got a pm from george about it but i think he meant to send it to leancuisine. i think i do my fair share of posting here and would pay $5-6 bucks a month in return.
EF Sam said:I am starting to see why Elite has had a hard time finding people that want to help.
I gave the Project the karma as he is a paying member of this board that was not scared to voice his opinion. While I hope in the future he will do this direct to me and not on the open board, I still felt the need to give him what I could. He supports this site that a lot of you non paying members seem to complain about.
HumorMe - I realize that it was a token gesture, but the thought was there. You are also a supporting member of the site, and I thank you deeply for it. Seeing as you think it is such a small gesture, I guess you wouldn't want to have it yourself?![]()
EF Sam said:
HumorMe - I realize that it was a token gesture, but the thought was there. You are also a supporting member of the site, and I thank you deeply for it. Seeing as you think it is such a small gesture, I guess you wouldn't want to have it yourself?![]()
EF Sam said:
TheProject,
I understand your issues and have sent you in PM a detail of why the issues are there and how we will fix them. You are a valued member of the board and it isn't pleasing to see negative comments being made on an open forum. However, I do understand your complaints and they will be addressed. I also understand that support has not been here for you on the boards and that has now changed. So if you need help, please PM me or email me direct. I promise an answer in 24 hours.
For the rest of you,
The technical issues are a result of the vbulletin software that runs the site. There is a fix and an upgrade coming out in the not to distant future that will resolve the issues that some paying members are having.
For those of you that help support the site, we thank you very much. It is because of you that we can continue to operate.![]()
EF Sam said:I am starting to see why Elite has had a hard time finding people that want to help.
EF Sam said:
I gave the Project the karma as he is a paying member of this board that was not scared to voice his opinion. While I hope in the future he will do this direct to me and not on the open board, I still felt the need to give him what I could. He supports this site that a lot of you non paying members seem to complain about.
HumorMe - I realize that it was a token gesture, but the thought was there. You are also a supporting member of the site, and I thank you deeply for it. Seeing as you think it is such a small gesture, I guess you wouldn't want to have it yourself?![]()
TheProject said:
Oh, come on. This is absolutely ridiculous. We're no more demanding than any other consumer. If you sold me laundry detergent, and it didn't clean my clothes, you can be damn sure I'd be pissed.
Or to make another analogy...if I sign up for a porn site expecting movies and pictures, and I just get pictures...still pissed.
I appreciate the karma, and recognize it for what it is...a token gesture. I have expressed my concerns in greater detail to Sam via PM, and I'll wait and see what happens from here.
I'm giving Sam the fair opportunity to make me a happy customer.
big4life said:Sorry, but I was a platinum member for over a year and the rasons I gave it up were, some of the mods seem to be on a power trip and when you send an email to George to complain, you never got a responce.
The banning of puc is a prime example. Not one mod has posted here to say this is why he was banned. Nobody wants any personal dirt, but they could at least explain their actions a little better.
HumorMe said:Great big ole can o' worms, wouldn't you say Sam?![]()
The Canadian Oak said:
I feel the reasons are being tip toed around aswell,As a plat member I demand a explanation,Puc was a good member of the board and quite the pain in the ass,now stop beating around the bush and tell us exact incidents
thanks
notoriousQQ said:People get banned, big f'n deal. This is a privately owned business operated to make a profit. You can damn well bet if somebody kept coming in to my store, or my house, and shitting in it, they would wear out there welcome quickly - especially if they were not a paying customer. Beyond that, who gives a shit. I haven't been around that long, but, I thought Puc was abrasive, original and generally very entertaining. And I can't really speak about Code, I'm not familiar enough with his online persona and postings. But besides that I really got to take a dump. Hope I don't miss anything important or another banning.
EF Sam said:
I apologize if you feel a mod was out of line, but you need to understand a few things. We are a very large site (40k members) and we really have to keep a handle on some types of behavior. As for lack of response, you would have no idea how many emails that come in. Most of which are not from board members at all. It can be very difficult trying to deal with everyone, but that is why I am here along with a few other new members of the team.
.
spatts said:So do we ban George for constantly giving Code something to bitch about? Did anyone, before EF Sam, attempt to address code's concerns in any way other than moving his threads to the mod forum? Perhaps if his concerns had been addressed a banning wouldn't be necessary.
TheProject said:
Code also posted about writing a letter to the EF offices about going Platinum if they gave him an ETA on when the features would be fixed.
I don't think he was opposed to it, I think he just wanted to see what was promised, delivered.
EF Sam said:
Thank you once again for looking into this and giving me more information. Code is now able to access the boards again, so if you have a way to reach him please let him know that he is welcome back.
thebabydoc said:Just my .02 on top of the thousand or so before me, but banning Puc was utter BS. I'm not sure if he violated the T.O.S. but if he has, there must be about 1,000 others who did too, including many moderators like that fraudulent pussy Fonz.
WODIN said:
B- Dballer hope that hell freezes over and I think that will happen first.
dballer said:
HAHAHAHA
hey man.. was this a reply to my suggestion to let BO$ back???![]()
dballer said:
HAHAHAHA
hey man.. was this a reply to my suggestion to let BO$ back???![]()
joncrane said:bannings should be temporary.
Like the first time you're banned for a couple of days. Then for 5 days. Then for 2 weeks. Then for life.
It's not fair to just up and ban someone. I know they get warnings and stuff but banning is so permanent.....
Also there should be a sticky thread that only mods can post on with a list of all banned members and why, and maybe even links to the offending posts.
If someone did that i would go plat.
JC
joncrane said:bannings should be temporary.
Like the first time you're banned for a couple of days. Then for 5 days. Then for 2 weeks. Then for life.
It's not fair to just up and ban someone. I know they get warnings and stuff but banning is so permanent.....
Also there should be a sticky thread that only mods can post on with a list of all banned members and why, and maybe even links to the offending posts.
If someone did that i would go plat.
JC
This page contains mature content. By continuing, you confirm you are over 18 and agree to our TOS and User Agreement.
Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below 










