here's my experience with it. back in high school about 10 yrs ago. i knew nothing about gear, absolutely nothing! i got them from some guy at school. i got 2 bottles of searle anavar 2.5mg pills. i cycled them up to 8-10 a day if memory serves. now i didn't gain any size at all, didn;t know about the eating, i did get stronger though. the only thing i can say about it is that it proved to me that roid rage does exist. i didn;t even know about roid rage back then but the stuff made me into a madman. now looking back it is the only time i ever got that roid rage, even after doing many cycles later at higher dosages. so i dunno why? btw, at the time i also did not know what a cycle was. i really did know nothing. wish i knew back then what i know now. wish these boards existed back then.