the problems with dbol is that you will crash if you run it alone. i know a few guys do it but you'll likely loose everything you gain. anavar, winny, tbol can all be run alone and the gains are keepable. drol forget it. if you kick off a test cycle with dbol fine cause you will not crash you'll be on the test and then run pct. do not run a heavy oral alone. liver is the least worry you should have.