Thanks Needto. Another trusted EF member clarified for me the other day about something. About a year ago, I was fatigued bad, went to doc and he drew a test level. Now I at that point hadn't touched aas. My reading was 260. So doc had me shoot 250mg test enanth week x 12 weeks. I never considered that a cycle but now I realize it was. The problem is the doc knew less than I did sadly. After the 12 weeks, went back, felt great, little bloat but nothing unbearable. So I asked him about maintenance at that time and he said no need you system had a boost now it will restart. BS. I crashed about week 15 go figure. My body recovered but it took a while. I didn't know about obtaining any pct myself or aas at the time. I started a dbol only cycle @ 20mg daily, 2 weeks in and having good clean results believe it or not. I found another doc, researched her knowledge before going and she knows her stuff. She wants me to have test level drawn, but didn't want the dbol to cause a false high in my natty test level. So looks lime I'm up for HRT therapy. That's why I was asking.