Dianabol + Deca Durabolin first cylce critique

[ace88]

I am in the procces of researching for my first cylce and I have preety much settled on this cycebut I still have afew questions. would taking .25mg of arimedex daily and 10mg of nolvadex daily be overkill(Deathly afraid of gyno)? What could I gain by adding Test E to the cycle? Would it be possible to piggyback a 4 week cutting cycle before pct to add deffinition? And lastly does anyone know where to get multi use vials online? Thanks in advance for your help?
WEEK DECA/ DIANABOL/ NOLVA/ Milk Thistle
1 200mg 10mg 1000mg
2 200mg 30mg 10mg 1000mg
3 400mg 35mg 10mg 1000mg
4 400mg 40mg 10mg 1000mg
5 400mg 40mg 10mg 1000mg
6 600mg 45mg 10mg 1000mg
7 400mg 40mg 10mg 1000mg
8 400mg 35mg 10mg 1000mg
9 200mg 20mg 10mg 1000mg
10 1000mg
11 1000mg
12
13 DAY 1 PCT

Milk Thistle 3 days prior to beginning cycle
Milk Thistle 1000mg daily for entire cycle
10mg Nolvadex daily.
Post Cycle Therapy begins 3 weeks after last shot (week 13)
HCG
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
First Week Post-Cycle: HCG @ 1500IUs 2 times a week

Clomid
Day 1 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 2-14: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 15-28: Clomid @ 50mg ED

Nolva
PCT Days 1-28: Nolva @ 20mg ED

 

[centy]

Sorry Bro - Terrible first cycle.

1) You need to take test with deca.
2) First cycle should be test only. (Maybe 3-4 weeks of Dbol)
3) Do not take Nolva on cycle.
4) 9 weeks of an oral like Dbol is a bad idea. 4-5 weeks max.


IMO - Your first cycle should be 8-10 weeks of Test 250-400 / week. Kick it with a little dbol if you want.

 

[centy]

Oh, and if you're deathly afraid of gyno, I'd even say don't mess with Deca.

 

[ryno9000]

Nolvadex is the WORST thing to take in this situation. Will make your gyno worse, from what I hear. And if you are willing to take dianabol, you should be willing to take test. Run some form of test, drop the dbol and for godsake don't run Nolva with any nandrolone.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - at 200 mg Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and 15-20 mg a day Dianabol - methandrostenolone - was the gold standard of cycles for probably 25 years.

There's an old maxim "If you can't grow on Deka-and-Dball you can't grow on anything."

 

[sincere81oo0]

just do test by itself your first cycle save the other gear..... if your going to ignore that and do it anyway, use test indefinitely with that stack and make sure to drop the nolva as it will make your gyno worse because of the deca....

 

[ace88]

So I should replace the deca with test e

 

[sincere81oo0]

So I should replace the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - with testosterone enanthate

like i said, first time around run some test alone..... save the other compund for a stack when your more experienced. IMO

 

[ace88]

Sorry but im a bit confused. Drop the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - from the cycle does that also include the PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - ? should i then use the arimedex during the cycle?. Im a little amazed because ive read that Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and Dianabol - methandrostenolone - cycle goes way back in the day. Considering the overwelming response im going to go with the testosterone enanthate w/ 4 weeks og dianabol. Thats answers one of my questions what about cutting at the end of the cycle before starting PCT - post cycle therapy - ?

 

[ace88]

I did some reading and I came up with this.

weeks 1-4 35-40mg dianabol/day
Weeks 1-10 500mg Test E
weeks 1-10 arimidex .25 mg/day
2 Weeks Before End of Cycle: HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
1 Week Before End of Cycle: HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 1500IUs 3 times a week
First Week Post-Cycle: HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - @ 1500IUs 2 times a week

week 13
PCT
Day 1 Post Cycle: Clomid @ 300mg
Days 2-14: Clomid @ 100mg ED
Days 15-28: Clomid @ 50mg ED
Days 1-28: Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - @ 20mg ED

 

[OMEGA]

a best "First" is simple 400-500 mgs of Test E a week

250 on Mon 250 on Thurday

AI= Aromasin at 15-20 mgs 3 times a week

Supps liek Creatine are great as well and add a pre workout product too

Eat SUPER clean

8-10 weeks

PCT is VERY important!

 

[Therealdeal06555]

you should just run your HCG from week 5-10 at 500ius a week.