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Dianabol and Hot Flashes

Outonthegrind

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Whats up bros, Long time no speak; Im still in the process of recovering from my car accident that happened 2 years ago; The nerve damage in my leg and back has since been diagnosed as "a permanent condition" and was told to live the best I can and do what I want to do to the
 
(sry about that; my phone died and i guess it sent what i had written up to that point although incomplete) Anyhow, as soon as I was diagnosed permanent I was back in the gym within a week; Its been 6 months and I just started my first cycle since the surgeries that sidelined me (they were supposed to "fix" me, so much for that.) Its nothin major, a relatively mild stack since I am essentially starting from scratch again. Here is my question..I am running Dbol for the first 5 weeks, this os my first time adding it to a cycle. In the past I never ran orals other then PHs early on (back when they were worth a shit) before the original ban in 04 (I think.) The last two cycles I ran before being sidelined I ran Tbol for 8 weeks on the 12 week cycles, I basicly loved it. At the time I was content with my weight and was looking for muscle hardness, definition, and strength to increase while staying lean and mean..the Tbol definitely made a difference and if I had a better source and was as heavy as I was back then Id be on it now.
This time I Decided to run 5 weeks of Dbol to get my weight up a bit as well as continue to build strength and mass. I am 1 week into this mild cycle and the plan is as follows:

Week 1-7: Test Prop 150mg eod
Week 8-14:Test Prop 100mg ed (or 200 mg eod pending on how I feel about ed pinning at that point)
Week 15: 150mg Test Prop eod or 75 ed (same variable, see above)
Week 16: 100mg Test Prop eod or 50 ed
Week 17: 50 mg e3d for 2 pins
Week 18: 25 mg e3d

Week 1-15 250mg EQ e3d

Week 1-6: Dbol 2x25 mg caps ed, taken in am on empty stomach (just like i took the Tbol. I may consider keeping on it thru Week 10 pending on results and feeling as I get closer to the mark)

Heres my question, although this is a pretty mild cycle for most I having some sides although its nothin extreme or visible. Keep in mind I have not been on any AAS or other supps. that arent dietary (protein, amino acids, multi vitamin, etc) for approx. 18 months and have lost considerable mass and strength while out of business although while training before my latest cycle I have gotten back a bit, maybe 50% of where I was prior to the surgeries.
The first 2 days I took only 25mg in am on empty stomach to see how i reacted, noticed nothing undesirable. Day 3 I upped to 50 mg daily and began getting hot flashes, sort of what it feels like on clenbuterol wothout the visable flushing (red skin). Face and body feel warm and sweating a lot, also I am the only one in the room not freezing with the A/C @ 67 degrees. I also had a burning sensation in my stomach the 1st 2 days on 50mg ed although that has stopped and is no longer an issue. I assumed the hot flashes (although its not a flash, starts approx 1 hr after taking and lasts about 4-6 hrs then goes away or at least becomes mild enough I dont notice it anymore and forget about it until the next dose) was a result of blood pressure spikes, I am aware that dbol effects some people's BP in this way. Heres where its strange..Ive had my blood pressure checked by my pharmacist the past 2 days as well as today and there is nothing to indicate that is too high or even that I am taking anything. Its in a perfectly healthy range and is actually a bit lower then last time I had it checked just because. I am drinking about 100 oz of water a day although today I have made an effort to up that a bit, up to 120 oz and still some hrs and a workout to go as im on pacific time.

Everybody please feel free to chime in and give me your take on this. I am considering splitting the dose and taking 1 (25mg) in am and 1 right before/after working out. I am trying to up my water as well as monitor my BP for any spikes, inconsistencies, drops, or anything else weird. Im not sure if this is normal with this compound or if im reacting strangely to it. Has anyone experienced this? What's your guys take? (Radar, been a long time but as you've never let me down before with your knowledge, I hope you drop some more on me big brother)

Again, thanks everyone for your help and one thing is for sure; After over a year in a semi-canatonic state followed by approx 5 mos natty, it FEELS SO GOOD TO BE BACK! Appreciate everyone, thanks in advance for the help/knowledge/experiences;
 
Hey guys, I just checked last years planner and re-did the math and its actually been about 14 mos since last cycle and I have been in the gym about 4 months + 1 week before starting this one, not 18 mos and 6 mos; jus want to fix that in case it changes the replies, not that i expect it to. Thanks again
 
I've coincidentally been researching the shit out of dbol for my second cycle for the past two days and I have read of sweats and yes try splitting the dose am and pm. Dbol stays active in the system 8 hours if I remember what I read correctly and given the amount of time ur sweating it would make sense.
Sorry to hear about the injuries ect.. Congrats on getting back at it...
 
50mg of legit dbol is overkill.

i only take 25mg a day. if its underdosed then throw it away instead of running twice what you need.

i tell guys all the time if you can't gain on 25mg a day of legit dbol then your workouts are lackluster.

also what is the purpose of tapering down your prop like that? you say you have experience with AAS, you should know what half lives are/mean and should know that AAS taper down on their own, you don't need to taper them down yourself.

and finally you didn't list your stats but since you have been a member for a year i am assuming you have posted them before, but if you are in bad shape going into cycle then sides can be worse. either way you should be running support supps or atleast have them on hand. so in conclusion LOWER YOUR DOSAGES and run support supps and get into better shape before juicing (if applicable)
 
Yeah, stats have been posted a few times but..

28 years old
12% BFP
187 lbs
5'10.5"
3200 kcal daily

Reason I am tapering down is because testp tends to make me crash harder then other esters. At the same time I like it better because it is more managable for me as far as making adjustments off of unknown variables and I get good results (plus the prop i have now is a smoker) so i am running prop. Last time I ran i tapered down a bit as my deca was clearin before starting pct; pct went smooth and effective and i didnt crash. Thats why im planning to taper. I'm taking a low dose of milk thistle (started two weeks prior) and have arimidex if necessary but at this point i dont think it is.

Anyway, maybe I'll cut the dbol. Is it known to possibly cause hot flashes in your experience? Im wondering if that is a common side and if there is any other info i should be aware of that i may have missed. Also whats your opinion on a 5 week kicker vs. running 10 weeks or for the duration, thays really what i need opinions on
 
The hot flashes are most likely high bp and high rbc count. Almost every steroid is going to increase both. There are alot of support supplements, diet, and lifestyle changes that can help with the blood pressure part of it although genetics are a big factor. Tapering any anabolic during cycle isn't going to accomplish much unless assessing sides to increase/decrease dose. Once you are shut down, you are shut down. Dosage doesn't matter at that point.
 
Yeah, stats have been posted a few times but..

28 years old
12% BFP
187 lbs
5'10.5"
3200 kcal daily

Reason I am tapering down is because testp tends to make me crash harder then other esters. At the same time I like it better because it is more managable for me as far as making adjustments off of unknown variables and I get good results (plus the prop i have now is a smoker) so i am running prop. Last time I ran i tapered down a bit as my deca was clearin before starting pct; pct went smooth and effective and i didnt crash. Thats why im planning to taper. I'm taking a low dose of milk thistle (started two weeks prior) and have arimidex if necessary but at this point i dont think it is.

Anyway, maybe I'll cut the dbol. Is it known to possibly cause hot flashes in your experience? Im wondering if that is a common side and if there is any other info i should be aware of that i may have missed. Also whats your opinion on a 5 week kicker vs. running 10 weeks or for the duration, thays really what i need opinions on

that is good info you gave so we can definately say i agree with the above poster that you are running too high a dose and should lower the dbol.

the prop is tough to recover from for sure.. i think test is the most suppressive AAS out there, but you can definately help yourself by kickstarting your pct and having a good one laid out. its all about timing. if you read around i've posted a lot of good info on how to time PCT's so you don't deal with that crash you mentioned
 
Blood pressure was my first thought. For the past 3 days I went to the walgreens to have it checked 2 hrs after dosing, no significant increase or decrease..zero, none; So ive ruled that out but will still check about once a week. I dont know what my liver is doing backed by concrete evidence so Im not going to guess but rather have a panel done in a few weeks. I posted bp info in my original post, musta missed it..
 
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