Diagnosed with Diabetes type 2

[plifter]

I had 2 blood tests about 6 months apart where my glucose was above 125 (I don't know what units they use). My glucose was 126 one time and 127 the next. This coincided with cessation of my exercise program and poor diet that followed. I've had some gastrointestinal problems that have been unresolved which has hurt my ability and desire to workout. My question is: Can I get rid of this type of diabetes if I get my ass in gear and get my diet and workouts back in order? I have an extensive family history on both sides of the family of diabetes. However, I've had blood work done 2 to 4 times a year for the past 6 years and my glucose was never high until recently.

 

[Cutiebaby]

No you cannot get rid of diabetes!!
Why did you not ask the doctor these questions, better yet why were they not explained to you upon diagnosis?
Any how, it is not curable. However you can manage it by eating plenty of fiber, vegetables, fruits and a nice low fat diet. Exercise is also a great way to manage it as well. Although you should stay away from sweets and starches. What you really should do is follow up with a physician about this diagnosis and find out just what is going on, which stage of type 2 you are in, what foods to completely avoid, and if you need to take anything to assist your insulin...

 

[blueta2]

Angel, type 2 diabetes is reversable. I think you;re thinking of type 1
It takes a lot of work but can be done

 

[Cutiebaby]

Angel, type 2 diabetes is reversable. I think you;re thinking of type 1
It takes a lot of work but can be done

No, he can manage the type 2 and keep it under control. It does not just go away, although yes it is not as severe as type 1 . There are a few articles that state it is curable but unless that comes from the cdc, or american heart association I am not buying into it.

 

[blueta2]

Angel, I know you're in nursing, but let me tell you these organizations deny many findings. The CDC and AHA are not the end all.

Type 2 is reversable. My Dad, my friend, my co worker were all type 2 and now no longer.
There is always a high risk of return though

 

[Cutiebaby]

Angel, I know you're in nursing, but let me tell you these organizations deny many findings. The CDC and AHA are not the end all.

Type 2 is reversable. My Dad, my friend, my co worker were all type 2 and now no longer.
There is always a high risk of return though

Yes Blu I understand that the Cdc, Aha, and diabetes.org and such are not the end all. however I have gotten much good reads from many of the sites, along with ones that I have not included here in that list (obviously)...Any how I am not one to just google and believe whatever article pops up first, not that I am implying that is what you do. However I did just google type 2 diabetes curable as I wanted to verify and double check on your opinion and my findings were not that great...
So that is great that people and loved ones have been "cured"...How do they eat now, are they obese, do they exercise at all, and why did it just disappear?
Are you sure that they do not have it managed and it is still there waiting to pop up and say "remember me"?

 

[blueta2]

Angel they were not insulin dependent diabetics. And yes they managed it with diet, exercise and suppliment. I would not say cured, they are still at risk.

Plifter did not mention if he was going to be given insulin?!
In which case, that is another story.

 

[velvett]

You're pre-d right now you can drop the numbers.

Get yourself a glucose meter.

Measure every AM right upon waking and before you go to bed (try and do this the same time every night).

Then experiment with your current diet, measure your blood prior to eating and 1, 2 and 3 hours after eating. Do this with every meal and try and keep 4 hours between each meal.

Write everything down, watch you ate (in grams as well) and your numbers.

Did they give you a random glucose test or are basing this only on your Fasting BG?
Did they do an AC1 test?

Get Dr. Bernstein's diabetes book and read it cover to cover - this will answer most questions you will have (not the recipe book - the big one). His diet is vey low in carb grams (think keto) but it will bring down your numbers.

Do not use the ADA guidelines.

After you have read the book, rework your diet gradually and take notes of any BG changes.

Hang in there, don't freak out just yet.

You can drop the numbers with the right food.

 

[Cutiebaby]

You're pre-d right now you can drop the numbers.

Get yourself a glucose meter.

Measure every AM right upon waking and before you go to bed (try and do this the same time every night).

Then experiment with your current diet, measure your blood prior to eating and 1, 2 and 3 hours after eating. Do this with every meal and try and keep 4 hours between each meal.

Write everything down, watch you ate (in grams as well) and your numbers.

Did they give you a random glucose test or are basing this only on your Fasting BG?
Did they do an AC1 test?

Get Dr. Bernstein's diabetes book and read it cover to cover - this will answer most questions you will have (not the recipe book - the big one). His diet is vey low in carb grams (think keto) but it will bring down your numbers.

Do not use the ADA guidelines.

After you have read the book, rework your diet gradually and take notes of any BG changes.

Hang in there, don't freak out just yet.

You can drop the numbers with the right food.

I was thinking that to myself about the pre diabetes however his post really did not say too much. If he was not indeed diagnosed as type 2 then definitely I agree with what you state. He needs to monitor his levels and keep a log on what they were and also keep steady with a physician who can look at the log and also keep tabs on it. My father just went through all of this not too long ago, and he did almost exactly as you have stated. Except he only tested once a day. And absolutely he can drop those numbers dramatically by eating correctly and avoiding the "risk" food groups...I must say good post Velvett. You sound like you been through this?

 

[blueta2]

Vel's blood sugar does NOT have it's shit together ;-)

 

[plifter]

Angel they were not insulin dependent diabetics. And yes they managed it with diet, exercise and suppliment. I would not say cured, they are still at risk.

Plifter did not mention if he was going to be given insulin?!
In which case, that is another story.

Thanks for the help everyone. I am not insulin dependent. In fact, my endo did not prescribe any meds at this point. I had basically quit my exercise program for about 6 months which coincides with the 2 blood tests that this diagnosis was based on. I suspect I've had it for a while and was managing it unknowingly through exercise. My reason for stopping the exercise regimen was due to a different medical issue. I've been having GI problems including bloody stools, stomach burning, and nausea. It's made me feel bad and I just have a hard time going to the gym when I feel sick. I've been working with my primary physician on this problem but he has referred me to a GI surgeon. My primary doc said the surgeon will likely have me do a colonoscopy and another test where they stick a camera in my stomach. It's another 2 weeks before my appointment with the GI surgeon.

I'm just worried about my overall health as I'm 35 years old and it seems like I'm being hit with a lot of problems at one time.

 

[velvett]

Vel's blood sugar does NOT have it's shit together ;-)

No it doesn't I'm afraid.

I have Latent Autoimmune Diabetes which is kind of funny because I have a type 1 father a type 2 mother.

I'll be honest - IT SUCKS ASS - doctors, ignorant people and what they heard of fing Oprah but when you find what works for your body it does get easier.

 

[blueta2]

No it doesn't I'm afraid.

I have Latent Autoimmune Diabetes which is kind of funny because I have a type 1 father a type 2 mother.

I'll be honest - IT SUCKS ASS - doctors, ignorant people and what they heard of fing Oprah but when you find what works for your body it does get easier.

Interesting, we both are auto immuned ;-)
Did u ever get your ANA (antinuclear antibody) checked?

 

[Cutiebaby]

Thanks for the help everyone. I am not insulin dependent. In fact, my endo did not prescribe any meds at this point. I had basically quit my exercise program for about 6 months which coincides with the 2 blood tests that this diagnosis was based on. I suspect I've had it for a while and was managing it unknowingly through exercise. My reason for stopping the exercise regimen was due to a different medical issue. I've been having GI problems including bloody stools, stomach burning, and nausea. It's made me feel bad and I just have a hard time going to the gym when I feel sick. I've been working with my primary physician on this problem but he has referred me to a GI surgeon. My primary doc said the surgeon will likely have me do a colonoscopy and another test where they stick a camera in my stomach. It's another 2 weeks before my appointment with the GI surgeon.

I'm just worried about my overall health as I'm 35 years old and it seems like I'm being hit with a lot of problems at one time.

That is great that you are not insulin dependent. Now you should take vels advice and monitor yourself. Get a nice little diet going on, and just take care of yourself. Not much to be worried about!
As for the Gi troubles good luck to you, I hope that everything turns out ok for you

 

[velvett]

Thanks for the help everyone. I am not insulin dependent. In fact, my endo did not prescribe any meds at this point. I had basically quit my exercise program for about 6 months which coincides with the 2 blood tests that this diagnosis was based on. I suspect I've had it for a while and was managing it unknowingly through exercise. My reason for stopping the exercise regimen was due to a different medical issue. I've been having GI problems including bloody stools, stomach burning, and nausea. It's made me feel bad and I just have a hard time going to the gym when I feel sick. I've been working with my primary physician on this problem but he has referred me to a GI surgeon. My primary doc said the surgeon will likely have me do a colonoscopy and another test where they stick a camera in my stomach. It's another 2 weeks before my appointment with the GI surgeon.

I'm just worried about my overall health as I'm 35 years old and it seems like I'm being hit with a lot of problems at one time.

I had the same thing, they'll probably do an ultrasound first check your organs and try and rule out pancreas and gallbladder issues.

The camera isn't that bad - I don't know about the colonoscopy but I've heard that the drink will clean you out pretty good.

OH and before I forget also measure you sugar before and after you exercise, some people go up after and other go down, you need to know which group you're in.

 

[velvett]

I was thinking that to myself about the pre diabetes however his post really did not say too much. If he was not indeed diagnosed as type 2 then definitely I agree with what you state. He needs to monitor his levels and keep a log on what they were and also keep steady with a physician who can look at the log and also keep tabs on it. My father just went through all of this not too long ago, and he did almost exactly as you have stated. Except he only tested once a day. And absolutely he can drop those numbers dramatically by eating correctly and avoiding the "risk" food groups...I must say good post Velvett. You sound like you been through this?

Yup, misdiagnosed as type 2 put on various meds that made me violently ill. It took my sugar dropping to the 40's and my passing out in a doctor's office for someone to pay attention to me and what I was saying when I said something else is wrong.

I'm not a 2 or 1 but something inbetween.

 

[blueta2]

Thanks for the help everyone. I am not insulin dependent. In fact, my endo did not prescribe any meds at this point. I had basically quit my exercise program for about 6 months which coincides with the 2 blood tests that this diagnosis was based on. I suspect I've had it for a while and was managing it unknowingly through exercise. My reason for stopping the exercise regimen was due to a different medical issue. I've been having GI problems including bloody stools, stomach burning, and nausea. It's made me feel bad and I just have a hard time going to the gym when I feel sick. I've been working with my primary physician on this problem but he has referred me to a GI surgeon. My primary doc said the surgeon will likely have me do a colonoscopy and another test where they stick a camera in my stomach. It's another 2 weeks before my appointment with the GI surgeon.

I'm just worried about my overall health as I'm 35 years old and it seems like I'm being hit with a lot of problems at one time.

A colonoscopy and endoscopy (in the stomach) are simple and don't sweat it.
I have health problems also so I can empathize.
Take care of your body the best you can.

 

[Cutiebaby]

I had the same thing, they'll probably do an ultrasound first check your organs and try and rule out pancreas and gallbladder issues.

The camera isn't that bad - I don't know about the colonoscopy but I've heard that the drink will clean you out pretty good.

OH and before I forget also measure you sugar before and after you exercise, some people go up after and other go down, you need to know which group you're in.

Wow I am shocked that they did not do an Ctscan instead of the ultrasound, that is typically what they do now for GI issues.
They are doing the colonoscopy due to the bloody stools, that would be the intestines causing trouble. Could be a number of things ranging from diverticulitis, crohns, colitis, or inflammed bowel syndrom. Colonoscopy's can have their ups and downs.

 

[velvett]

Interesting, we both are auto immuned ;-)
Did u ever get your ANA (antinuclear antibody) checked?

I've always wanted to talk to you about it, your experiencesl but I hate talking about it because everyone by me is always watching me and "talking to me"... sigh... so I thought you might feel that way too.

ANA?

hmm doesn't right bell but that doesn't mean anything my memory is shot too

LOL

I'll look at my papers over the weekend.

 

[blueta2]

The camera isn't that bad - I don't know about the colonoscopy but I've heard that the drink will clean you out pretty good.

I had it done twice and the stuff u need to drink is gross but you feel so clean and detoxed the next day.

 

[Cutiebaby]

Yup, misdiagnosed as type 2 put on various meds that made me violently ill. It took my sugar dropping to the 40's and my passing out in a doctor's office for someone to pay attention to me and what I was saying when I said something else is wrong.

I'm not a 2 or 1 but something inbetween.

Damn, sounds like plenty of fun. Gotta love it when you tell someone their is a problem and they disagree. It is like "Hello it is my body, I know when something is wrong"...I have had issues for some time now between my sugars and my blood pressure and was told I was fine. Just had some blood work done and the sugars were a bit high, imagine that!

 

[velvett]

Wow I am shocked that they did not do an Ctscan instead of the ultrasound, that is typically what they do now for GI issues.
They are doing the colonoscopy due to the bloody stools, that would be the intestines causing trouble. Could be a number of things ranging from diverticulitis, crohns, colitis, or inflammed bowel syndrom. Colonoscopy's can have their ups and downs.

Yeah, i don't know that's what the doc had ordered at the time.

 

[blueta2]

I've always wanted to talk to you about it, your experiencesl but I hate talking about it because everyone by me is always watching me and "talking to me"... sigh... so I thought you might feel that way too.

ANA?

hmm doesn't right bell but that doesn't mean anything my memory is shot too

LOL

I'll look at my papers over the weekend.

you can talk to me anytime

yeah check to see if they did it. Normally in an auto immune disorder the test would be done with a reg blood test.

 

[velvett]

Damn, sounds like plenty of fun. Gotta love it when you tell someone their is a problem and they disagree. It is like "Hello it is my body, I know when something is wrong"...I have had issues for some time now between my sugars and my blood pressure and was told I was fine. Just had some blood work done and the sugars were a bit high, imagine that!

When my sugar's up my BP is up too and if it stays up I can count on a migraine.

All of it though makes me understand my father and his behavior while I was growing up.


What did the doc tell you?
Have you been able to find a way to resolve the issues?

 

[Cutiebaby]

When my sugar's up my BP is up too and if it stays up I can count on a migraine.

All of it though makes me understand my father and his behavior while I was growing up.


What did the doc tell you?
Have you been able to find a way to resolve the issues?

Sorry I did not get back to you last night.
See with me my bp plummets to all time low and that is also a nice cause to my migraine issues and it of course affects my sugar levels. And my sugar has been here there and everywhere. they were saying that when my bp lowers my sugar lowers however when tested it came out high three times.
I moved to a new Dr due to my previous one not paying attention and not correctly diagnosing people. So any ways the new Dr instructed me to have a nice diet full of eggs, greens, and red meats. I however am a terrible eater and not ashamed to announce it so I am now instructed to take
coQ10
B2 (which I cannot seem to find anywhere)
and of course a nice multivitamin.
So I am still in follow ups with my dr and have to get my sugars tested constantly. I return to her every 6 weeks and she is monitoring my sugars.
I have diabetes all over my family on all 4 sides with my fathers family history being worse. My father just went through 6 months of daily testing due to his sugars being too high and he is on a sugarless starchless diet now which looks as though that may be my next step.
It is surely a big mess

 

[blueta2]

PLifter, check this out. Read the entire article.
I'm starting Apple Cider Vinegar for my health issues

Let me know what you think

http://www.webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar

 

[velvett]

coQ10
B2 (which I cannot seem to find anywhere)
and of course a nice multivitamin.
So I am still in follow ups with my dr and have to get my sugars tested constantly. I return to her every 6 weeks and she is monitoring my sugars.
I have diabetes all over my family on all 4 sides with my fathers family history being worse. My father just went through 6 months of daily testing due to his sugars being too high and he is on a sugarless starchless diet now which looks as though that may be my next step.
It is surely a big mess

Look for Riboflavin (b2)

OY!

All 4 sides

Just keep on top of it as you already have been doing.

I highly recommend Dr. B - doesn't matter what type you are 1, 2 or LADA/1.5 like me - there's fantastic info in his book and he's a type 1 himself.

He also has a recipe book that's not bad either.

 

[Cutiebaby]

Look for Riboflavin (b2)

OY!

All 4 sides

Just keep on top of it as you already have been doing.

I highly recommend Dr. B - doesn't matter what type you are 1, 2 or LADA/1.5 like me - there's fantastic info in his book and he's a type 1 himself.

He also has a recipe book that's not bad either.

I will look into Dr. B thanks vel.
As far as B2 goes I have been everywhere and all they sell is 1,6,12 and complex. So I spoke to pharmacist and he said get vitamin k and vitamin c which are both parts of the B2, but I did not want to be taking 20,000 vitamin pills a day. I will grab the riboflavin next time I go to the store. Thanks v

 

[blueta2]

I will look into Dr. B thanks vel.
As far as B2 goes I have been everywhere and all they sell is 1,6,12 and complex. So I spoke to pharmacist and he said get vitamin k and vitamin c which are both parts of the B2, but I did not want to be taking 20,000 vitamin pills a day. I will grab the riboflavin next time I go to the store. Thanks v

Whole Wheat bread has a ton of riboflavins ;-)Toss the white bread girl