DHT conversion & gains ??

[supreme]

Hey guys,


I was wondering how important is DHT or the conversion of Test to DHT for gains?

I know DHT has some anabolic properties & is active in the CNS but if if one were to use finasteride (propecia) to protect their hair, would it severely diminish gains?

I normally run 1mg / day to help slow hairloss and I usually use 2 mg (1 morning / 1 night) when on a cycle?? Gains were o.k but will the finasteride interfere with the new oral & topical "goodies" that are the current rage?

S

 

[OneBreath]

Depends, if you are taking beastdrol/anavar/primo/winny/etc, it won't have any affect. They are already DHT so the the finasteride can't touch it.

If you are doing a test only cycle, then maybe you would see some different. Not much though. I personally would be more worried that the blocking of the alpha reductase conversion would allow more aromatization. In other words, if it's not getting converted to DHT, is more getting converted to estrogen? I doubt there is any hard evidence that this happens but i would be more worried about that then having less dht.

 

[usudno]

OneBreath (no homo here) but i want to look just like you. what are your stats/cycle history??

 

[OneBreath]

OneBreath (no homo here) but i want to look just like you. what are your stats/cycle history??

Thanks, i appreciate that. I'm 34 and 6'4". The avatar was last Aug at 240 lbs and maybe 10% BF. I haven't done many cycles (2 at that time i think) and i keep my doses low. I put more in training and diet than chemicals. I'm pretty sure i put everything in this thread with progress pics. Cycle details are probably in the replies somewhere.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-gallery-members-pictures/progress-sept-2007-aug-2008-a-606616.html

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[supreme]

Depends, if you are taking beastdrol/anavar/primo/winny/etc, it won't have any affect. They are already DHT so the the finasteride can't touch it.

Thanks for the help !

Any suggestions for the DHT products like Beastadrol to reduce hair loss since the finasteride can't help with the DHT compunds

i.e blocking scalp receptors or lowering DHT levels in the scalp- I already use topical spironolactone & 2 % Nizoral shampoo.

If I run an A.I. will that help block, decrease the possible estrogen increase from the finasteride??

S

 

[OneBreath]

Tough to say. What all are your running? Post length of time and dosages.

 

[supreme]

Thanks OneBreath for the reply!

Trying to go the totally "legal" route this time:

Week 1 -2 PP 1 - T, 5 pumps
Week 3 PP 1 - T 6 pumps, 3 Dieselbolan
Week 4- 5 PP 1 -T Tren 5 pumps, 3 Dielselbolan
Week 6 PP 1 -T Tren 6 pumps, 3 Dieselbolan

Following PP outline, the TRS begins week 3 & continues to 10

Taking all necessary Liver Supps, have high grade reseveratrol for anti-e & Arom-X on hand as A.I. If needed as well as Vitex for progestin help.

To keep my hair: Daily Nizoral 2% Shampoo, 1mg Finasteride (usually 2 mg with the 1 -T), liposomal minoxidil, 2& & 5% Spironolactone, and PP Toco 8 2x /day

Next stack planning after TRS (To cut): 4 Weeks

Katanadrol, Dermacrine, AGX Lipostack & ? Considering low dose Beastdrol or Tren Tfo or The "One" by Applied Nutraceuticals - Goal is to cut, get dry & vascular BUT NOT GO BALD OR NEED A BRA!!!

Assume all Liver Supps, Anti-e & A.I. to be used and the same as before. Diet will be low Carb, High protein & Essential fats and PP TRS for PCT as well HCG if needed.

So can you come up with a 3rd product for my next stack that won't make me a charter member of the "Uncle Fester Fan Club"??

Any ideas suggestions greatly appreciated!!!

S

 

[OneBreath]

To be honest i'm not familiar enough with these OTC products that i feel comfortable giving advise. The only OTC i've ever used was superdrol (beastdrol). Hopefully someone experienced with these will post. If you don't get any help in this thread PM needto. He'll take care of you.

Good luck with your cycle.