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Developing the quads
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louden_swain
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GravityRules said:
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What do you guys do to get those big quads?
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Thanks, Louden.
pwr_machine
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Seriously, squats are probably the most important thing you can do to get those quads growing. Most importantly, learn the correct form then start attacking workouts weekly.
Atomic Punk
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Squats are good for ass development. Overrated for building big & cut quads as far as I'm concerned.
By the way pwr_machine, I just took my NSCA CPT Test in June. They were giving the CSCS test accross the hall, and dudes were coming outta that biotch with their eyes crossed, it was so hard(they said). Congrats for passing that sucker.
By the way pwr_machine, I just took my NSCA CPT Test in June. They were giving the CSCS test accross the hall, and dudes were coming outta that biotch with their eyes crossed, it was so hard(they said). Congrats for passing that sucker.
Brett44444444
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If I want to concentrate on hitting my quads more than the other muscles involved when I squat, I'll bring my feet closer together and put the bar in front (front squat). This completely slaughters my quads if they aren't dead after squatting normally.
Atomic Punk
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Ever do 1-Leg Squats on a Smith as a switch? You'd be surprised how effective those are. I actually prefer them over the real deal. In this months "Muscle & Fitness" there is a training article on them w/ pics. In fact there is a huge section on overall body training that includes some obscure lifts that I have never even seen. Worth the 5 buck in my opinion.
mucle and fitness = wimpy and stupidness...lol j/k
for quads, do movements desinged for Olympic Weightlifters. they have huge quads and if you've ever trained that way you'll know why. overhead squats hit the quads harder than any other squat i know. do those, zercher squats and front squats for good time. that and push a truck forwards and backwards.
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for quads, do movements desinged for Olympic Weightlifters. they have huge quads and if you've ever trained that way you'll know why. overhead squats hit the quads harder than any other squat i know. do those, zercher squats and front squats for good time. that and push a truck forwards and backwards.
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pwr_machine
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Atomic Punk said:
I could almost agree that something like hack squats and front squats may be up to par when it comes to quad development, but then again how many times have you seen a big squatter with small quads? For example, the thread about Captain Kirk in the Powerlifting Forum. Look at the size of that guys legs!
The CSCS is no joke. I know certifications don't mean much to some people on the boards, but when you're looking at job descriptions and they're all wanting only ASCM or NSCA, I think it's wise to get out and get certified. How did the CPT go?
I'm gonna agree with that and qualify it. It depends a lot on squatting style. PL-style is very hip-intensive. Almost like a deadlift with the bar resting on your back instead of held.
Basically both squat and deadlift are combinations of two motions: leg extension and hip extension. Individual biomechanics will dictate to what degree each is involved.
I'm lanky with crappy levers. I find that when I squat it's almost entirely a hip motion. I have to train leg extension directly using...leg extension machines.
louden_swain
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CoolColJ said:
Yep. . . its true. . its true
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pwr_machine said:
I passed it. It was tricky though, but you can miss alot of them since it was 136 questions total if I remember correctly. Alot of the multiple choice choices were so close, that you simply had to guess. I also didn't agree with some of the things that they said were the "proper way" to go about spotting. I'll give you an example. I don't know how your test went, but for the CPT, the first 30 or 40 questions were based on a video which showed a training session, and how you should be assisting the client while doing such. One question was your basic "what is the spotter(trainer) doing improperly while spotting this client"? The lift was flat-bench bell presses. I could see absolutely nothing wrong with how the trainer was performing in the video, but it turned out that the answer(according to NSCA) was that he was spotting the person by the ELBOWS, as oppsed to the WRISTS--which they say is improper. I totally disagree. There were other questions as well, but that one stood out in my head.
Atomic Punk
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kingc_79 said:
not sayin that thats wrong or anything but stick around here and read and listen to some of the ppl here and you will be throwin all those mags away
Lol. This one I bought in St. Paul, Minnesota, while waiting for a connecting flight--just to have something to kill some time. I had another 6 hour flight coming up...must've read it coveer to cover, twice.. Usually I go with the Boards as well though.
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MsBeverlyHills
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one-legged squats on a Smith??? oh man-- sounds painful-- the sheering force on your kneecaps would be brutal...
Atomic Punk
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MsBeverlyHills said:
Not any worse than it might be on regular squats, if you already have knee problems. You go really light of course. To get the feel for them, I started with just the Bar, then moved to 25's. To avoid any additional knee stress though, you simply adjust your stance so that your leg is farther forwrd that usual in order to stress the hammies a little more. That will equate to less quad stress--less stress on the knww if that is a problem for the person doing them. i wouldn't advise any of my clients to do them at all if i knew they had a pre-existing condition like knee problems.
Eatmorechicken
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I have seen quite a few powerlifters whose quads weren't that big for their size. Ed Coan even said the quads are not that sigificant in the squat for powerlifters. That's because when you move the bar low, widen the stance, and maintain vertical shins, the quads take on primarily an antagonist/stabilizing role.
Front squats deep with a normal width stance and you will hit the quads hard. Combined with regularly doing Conventional Deadlifts, the quads will grow like a weed.
Front squats deep with a normal width stance and you will hit the quads hard. Combined with regularly doing Conventional Deadlifts, the quads will grow like a weed.
MsBeverlyHills
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atomic-- so your a trainer??
ok.. a little education for ya-- the Smith is on a fixed plane so your able to lean against the bar for stabilization when your squating-- problem being this minimizes your hip extension which also minimizes your hamstring involvement (even w/a forward stance)-- when your hammys are no longer stabilizing your knees-- you get a sheering force on the joints...
never squat on the Smith (even w/just the bar) if you want to avoid knee injuries.
ok.. a little education for ya-- the Smith is on a fixed plane so your able to lean against the bar for stabilization when your squating-- problem being this minimizes your hip extension which also minimizes your hamstring involvement (even w/a forward stance)-- when your hammys are no longer stabilizing your knees-- you get a sheering force on the joints...
never squat on the Smith (even w/just the bar) if you want to avoid knee injuries.
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Atomic Punk
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MsBeverlyHills said:
Ya. I don't agree at all quite frankly. Fixed plane or not, foot placement DOES factor into what muscles are stressed more on that exersise. Same applies to Leg Presses(45 degree angle), and Hack Squats. Place the feet higher on the platforms for either, and the hamstrings will indeed be stressed more. Those are both fixed planes too. I've never heard your theory, and am not sure where you got that, so I respectfully disagree. I said before though, that I wouldn't have anyone under my tootilage do those if I knew they had knee issues. In fact, I've never had anyone do them, but that's simply because it is too advanced for the type of clientel at the gym I train.
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atomic p-- my "theory" is pretty simple body mechanics...
btw-- the fixed plane of the Smith is totally diff than leg press-- its prob good your training at a gym that doesnt have "advanced" clientele.... LOL!!
btw-- the fixed plane of the Smith is totally diff than leg press-- its prob good your training at a gym that doesnt have "advanced" clientele.... LOL!!
Atomic Punk
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MsBeverlyHills said:
Fixed plane is different HOW?! A different angle, but that still doesn't change the fact that foot placement equates to greater stress on whatever given muscle. Don't see why your throwing insults my way either. I suggested the 1-legged Squats as simply a switch. I didn't say that they should be used as a base for any workout as far as developing quads, did I?! And again(for the rude and weak in reading comprehension section--you) I said I wouldn't advise any of my clients to do them.
Now, do you have anything to offer the guy who started this Thread? So far nothing, but insults towards me, and an overall shit attitude. At least I gave the guy some advice. My advise. My opinion. Based on my experiences. Never said it was scripture.
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Atomic Punk said:
ok-- sorry- dont get so hostile... & I dont have a shit attitude, I just dont like seeing incorrect/dangerous advice being passed on-- so anyway what was the original question.. LOL!!
bigger quads-- do narrow stance squats-- heavy weight, low reps...
pwr_machine
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I'll try again...SQUAT! Sure you might find a couple exceptions in the population, but open your eyes and look around at most heavy squatters. You'll see some big quads.
I think this sums up my thoughts:
Down the road, in a gym far away
A young man was heard to say,
“No matter what I do, my legs won’t grow!
He tried leg extensions, leg curls, leg presses too.
Trying to cheat, these sissy workouts he’d do!
From the corner of the gym where the big guys train,
Through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain,
Where the big iron rides high, and threaten lives,
Where the noise is made with big forty-fives,
A deep voice bellowed as he wrapped his knees,
A very big man with legs like trees,
Laughing as he snatched another plate from the stack,
Chalked his hands and monstrous back,
Said, “Boy, stop lying and don’t say you’ve forgotten!
Trouble with you is you ain’t been SQUATTIN’! .
I think this sums up my thoughts:
Down the road, in a gym far away
A young man was heard to say,
“No matter what I do, my legs won’t grow!
He tried leg extensions, leg curls, leg presses too.
Trying to cheat, these sissy workouts he’d do!
From the corner of the gym where the big guys train,
Through a cloud of chalk and the midst of pain,
Where the big iron rides high, and threaten lives,
Where the noise is made with big forty-fives,
A deep voice bellowed as he wrapped his knees,
A very big man with legs like trees,
Laughing as he snatched another plate from the stack,
Chalked his hands and monstrous back,
Said, “Boy, stop lying and don’t say you’ve forgotten!
Trouble with you is you ain’t been SQUATTIN’! .
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