Developing Gyno.-your input please!

[solidspine]

Just started week 5 of the following cycle

400mg per week primo week 1-10
500mg per week test week 1-10
50mg ed D-bol week 1-5

Ramped up to 50 mg per day of d-bol from 25mg per day.



Yesterday noticed the distinct development of gyno in both tits.
Not sore, just puffy and saggy appearing,


SO!

I started with 40mg ed of nolvadex and will stay on 20mg novladex ed until this goes away.


Question:


the symptoms have developed, should I stop the d-bol (50 tabs or 5 days)

until I see an improvement (lessening of the gyno)

or should I finish the d-bol?


Thanks a lot I appreciate everyone’s input,

PS- I don't have a lot of money or I would buy liquidex

 

[Nathan]

I'd keep Nolva at 40mg ED until the symptoms go away, and at least reduce your intake of the d-bol. If you've already been on the d-bol for 4 weeks then I'd probably just drop it - better safe than sorry. What type of test? Should it not be kicking in by now (not using prop are ya?) anyway?

 

[solidspine]

Thanks for the input,

Will hold off on the d-bol---indefinitely


It is test enanthate and it has been kicking in for about seven days.


Thanks again.

 

[solidspine]

I guess subconsciously this is exactly why, I like primo and test, never had this problem before.

 

[littlearnold1069]

get ahold of some liquidex if you can, it is far superior to nolvadex for gyno prevention

 

[solidspine]

 

[solidspine]

I think I will bump this up this afternoon and again this evening and see if any vets can comment.



Thanks

 

[Nathan]

Do you have any water bloat? Just curious.

 

[solidspine]

Water bloat-big time, I feel like a wood tick ready to pop.

It is entirely from the d-bol, It simply makes me huge,

I’m normally 5’5” 155lbs and low bf for being 51 years old

I’m over 170 now and look good except for my gut which just looks fat to me, but in fact I have had very little increase in actually body fat.

Holding at least 5-6 lbs of water.

 

[Nathan]

Thanks man. One more: Are your nips itchy all the time? Are they very itchy or is it more subtle?

 

[solidspine]

My nips don’t itch at all.

 

[solidspine]

There is no pain or itching in my nips, just general puffiness and a full look

 

[Nathan]

Thanks bro.

 

[BiggerisBetter]

solid, i can commiserate with you
i just noticed the symptoms the past few days
i am treating it with nolva, but am wondering if i should lower or drop the test just to be safe
btw my cycle is 600mg sust/600mg eq start of wk 4

 

[Andy13]

So you can develope gyno without itchy or sore nips??

 

[Nathan]

This is what I'm saying. I really want to get signs/symptoms clear so I don't make an ass out of my self anytime and overreact.

 

[solidspine]

Just as a reference, I have the symptoms of gyno, and additionally I have a lot of water bloat from the d-bol- so I am bigger and puffer everywhere including my tits.

My point is that I may not in fact have gyno ( hope this to be the case ) but still have bloated look plus puffy tits.

Overall I think today will be my last day on d-bol and will give it a good two week break, to isolate the cause.

I was going to start cutting next week, but will start tomorrow

 

[solidspine]

Bigger is better- I would drop the test for one week and maintain nolvadex, if no improvement drop the test even lower until your tits are back to normal..

 

[monkeydust]

Do you think simple water pills available at the grocery store would help to rid some of the water?

 

[BiggerisBetter]

monkey, i doubt it
i tried taraxatone and it didn't do shit
i don't think the otc supplements are designed to combat gear induced water retention

 

[PeanutButterMan]

DEFINATLEY A BUMP HERE, if you get fatty looking areas to the sides of the nips and around the nips without the warning signs, itchness etc, is it possible it can come without these symptons? Pics could help

 

[solidspine]

A number of quick observations:

First like everyone in this sport I am very self critical.

Second on d-bol everything, has become bloated including my tits, I feel like the Pillsbury doughboy, even thought guys at the gym are giving me compliments

I will post some pics and you critique my situation,