Desperatly need advice (got a DUI)

[Ir0n PhReAk]

I drank quit a bit at the club Saturday night b/c we had a designated driver. Then when we got back I decided I wanted to go to a frieds how at about 4a.m. It was only about a 4 mile drive and I was almost there and got pulled over. I blew like a .293, I believe thats pretty high but I hadn't ate anything all day and have a fairly high tolerance to alcohol. I was able to have my friend come and get me and have yet to tell my parents.(I'm 22 and am currently living at home) Its going to be hard telling them, they are SO disappointed in me already for my actions as of late. For you people who know about this stuff I have a few questions I would love to have answered. Do I need to get a lawyer? Will I lose my license?? This is my first D.U.I. and I have one speeding ticket on my license. Also will I most likley lose my insurance? I am to appear in court tomorrow but am hoping to get it postponed as I'm going to have trouble getting out of work. If anyone can give me some insight I would be very grateful.

 

[WODIN]

Get a lawyer. Look for one that specializes in DUI. Your parents reaction are the least of your worries.

 

[kbook71]

I got a dwi about the same age...it's gonna stick with you for about 10 years...that means every time you get a ticket and try to get it reduced, your dui pops up and that'll cause the judge to think twice about reducing your sentence...get a REAL good dui lawyer...most states have a mandatory class, license suspension/revocation....use the net to see what your state's laws are and start saving your money to absorb the lawyer's fees, increased insurance cost and fines levied by the state/county you are in...

 

[Taffy]

You want advice???

Take responsibility for your actions.
Grow up.
And I personally feel that Drunk Drivers deserve everything that the law courts give them. (and more).

 

[Julez]

Sorry to sound callous mate, but I have NO time for drunk drivers. I guess as a nurse, particually one that usually works in ITU, I see the unnecesary and usually horific consequences.

I drink but I would never ever drive, not even with one.

Anyway, I'm not going to lecture you..... probably being having enough of that from other parties.

I'll share this though. My own dad got caught twice, first time they threw the book at him(12 months ban, £2000 fine)- deserved it. He had no solicitor.

The second time(about 4 years later) he got caught in MY car of all bloody things. Now this car was a really sooped up Mustang, I mean the works, even in the US it would stand out(and probably hear it from here!) But really, drinking and driving in that car..... like the police were allways pulling me anyway(a lot of the time out of curiosity, I think).

We thought he was going to jail, and let me tell you my dad is not the sort that could do time easy. So he hired a highly recommended solitor and got off with a 3 year ban and...... a £2000 fine!


So, the advice is get a bloody good solicitor(or lawyer as you say).

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Thanks for the advice guys.
Taffy and Julez- I agree with you guys, I know i was VERY wrong for driving, even if it was only a couple miles.

 

[BoneCruncher]

In slightly related news today I got busted doing 45km (Im australian) over the limit which is punishable with a 6 month suspension and a $1500 dollar fine.

I couldnt believe my luck when he told me that he was feeling leniant and he was going to give me a chance, as it turns out he gave me NO ticket just a small fine for having a bald front left tire, a 6 month suspension would have truly ruined me I cannot believe I got off for no reason other than the officers compassion.

 

[mekannik]

Get a GOOD (DUI) lawyer and about $3,000.

Hopefully you didn't sign anything or give any type of an admission of guilt.

If you have a clean driving record/no criminal past - you can most likely get the first one bumped down to a moving violation, which will NOT show up as a DUI (so don't get another one - or you are fuc#ed).

Most likely you will have to do community service or attend 10 AA meetings (to see how you could turn out if you keep drinking).

As for your parents - you're 22. Suck it up. They will still be your parents - but you will have to re-earn their trust.

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Thanks again guys. Anyone else care to share their experiences? It kinda helps hearing from other people that have been through this.

 

[rudedawg]

Re: You want advice???

Take responsibility for your actions.
Grow up.
And I personally feel that Drunk Drivers deserve everything that the law courts give them. (and more).

Ditto that. I have done it but never got caught and THANK GOD never hurt anyone and for that I do thank God daily.

 

[KA-BAR]

Never ever blow! Just use your right to remain silent and dont say a word. They will lie to you and try to make you belive if you do not do what they say you will get in deeper shit. I know a guy who has one Dui and about got another but used the advice of his lawyer when they tried to get him the 2nd time. he never said a word! not one. When they told him to get out of the vehicle he did and just leaned against his truck. After that he acted like he was a mute. They took him to jail and in the morning let him go. They had nothing. I agree with the rest of the replies also but 4 miles? Thats some shitty luck. Good Luck man and what ever happens life goes on. Peace.

 

[Norman Bates]

I was caught with 40 to 45 km/h over the speed limit. I ´m waiting for the fine right now, but the worst thing will be about 150 Euro fine and prohibition to drive for a month ( which i´m allowed to choose afaik) Guess tha laws here aren´t as bad as i thought

 

[Puc]

Never ever blow! Just use your right to remain silent and dont say a word. They will lie to you and try to make you belive if you do not do what they say you will get in deeper shit. I know a guy who has one Dui and about got another but used the advice of his lawyer when they tried to get him the 2nd time. he never said a word! not one. When they told him to get out of the vehicle he did and just leaned against his truck. After that he acted like he was a mute. They took him to jail and in the morning let him go. They had nothing. I agree with the rest of the replies also but 4 miles? Thats some shitty luck. Good Luck man and what ever happens life goes on. Peace.

no kidding. SAY NOTHING. when they tell you they know you are a good kid who made a mistake SAY NOTHING. When they tell you if you don't talk you get worse punishment SAY NOTHING. Whether or not they read you your rights SAY NOTHING.

 

[Julez]

I have to ask- what does DUI stand for? Obviously, Drunk...

 

[oompha-loompha]

Say nothing????

What about when they ask if you submit to a test of breath or
blood?? If you say nothing they will take it as a REFUSAL and
you will lose your license for 1 year.

 

[dballer]

Go to court and tell them you need to file a motion for continuance. This will give you time to get counsil.

DUI laws are diffrent from state to state.... make sure to get a lawyer and do not listen to any legal advice from ANYONE not being paid to be your attorney.

 

[KA-BAR]

Re: Say nothing????

What about when they ask if you submit to a test of breath or
blood?? If you say nothing they will take it as a REFUSAL and
you will lose your license for 1 year.

How is it a refusal if you did not say anything? Even if you lose your license for a year its better than having a DUI. If you say nothing a good lawyer can get you off the hook for the right price.

 

[bigschweeler]

I have to ask- what does DUI stand for? Obviously, Drunk...

Driving under the influence. There is also DWI or driving while intoxicated, but I can't remember the difference anymore.

Shit - .29, are you kidding? I think I'd be passed out at that level and puking on myself.

Here in AZ the limit is .08 which is probably like one beer so it ain't worth screwing around.

 

[studcj]

DUI= Driving Under the Influence

 

[oompha-loompha]

If you say nothing its admitting guilt.
Besides even if you refuse your still going to court. And more than
likely will still get a DUI

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

Not sure what state you are in. Generally first offense o.w.i. is not what they call a "traffic crime", so that means usually no jail time. 2nd offense or more equals traffic crime which equals jail time. With your blood alcohol content being that high (.293), I do not feel a lawyer will help much. It will cost 3,000 to 5,000 for a good one and that is no guarantee you will get off. If the officer seemed to know what he was doing and was competent, chance are he knows his stuff and will be able to handle the lawyer in court. Believe it or not most cops are pretty good with the o.w.i. stuff and are able to do well in court. If you plead guilty or no contest, usually the courts drop the b.a.c. charge but find you guilty of the o.w.i. Generally the license suspension is 6 months and you can get an occupational license which lets you drive back and forth to work and other family type functions. Bro, I would take this as a hard lesson learned and forget the lawyer. Just my opinion.

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

Also just answering a previous post. A refusal is the worst thing you can do. Even if you refuse the blood draw or intoximeter test, there are instances where the officer can force a blood draw. This is called "search incident to a lawful arrest". Usually for second offense or more or if you were in an injury accident where intoxication is suspected. This is called "implied consent". Basically means that by driving and having a license, you will consent to the laws of the state. If you refuse you will automatically lose you license for a year or more. If you submit to the test you generally lose the license for 6 months with the chance of receiving an occupational license. Again this all hinges on your finding of guilt. Hope this helps some.

 

[Kahn]

Shit - .29, are you kidding? I think I'd be passed out at that level and puking on myself.
.

I was at court one time and a dude was DRIVING at .40! I thought dead was at .40. When they read it I said holy shit loud enough that people started laughing. That guy must have had some constitution. I know I'd have been sleeping.

 

[bigschweeler]

.40 - No way! Shit that guy must have built up some serious tolerance. What an idiot, driving that wasted, or wasted at all.

But at 22 I made my share of mistakes. I don't think I matured until I was 25/26.

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

Sorry to keep posting but I keep thinking of things as i go. Here are some questions for you. What state are you in, what field sobriety tasks did the officer ask you to perform, was the event recorded by video camera (from the police cruiser) or recorded for sound by micro cassette, what information did you volunteer to the officer such as how much you had to drink etc. Just some starter questions.

 

[KA-BAR]

If you say nothing its admitting guilt.
Besides even if you refuse your still going to court. And more than
likely will still get a DUI

How are you admitting guilt if you say nothing? I refused and nothing happened to me. I just got a warning but I only had 3 beers. Some say I was lucky but like I say I have another friend who never said a word and he didnt even have to get a lawyer he just had to spend the night in jail. He told me he was trashed also. Any good lawyer will tell you never to blow. They can get it down to wreckless op. If you blow they have evidence. If you dont its your word against his and a lawyer can help you.

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

KA-BAR, hey bro how ya doing. Just info, I have some knowledge in this area and I can guarantee every lawyer I know will tell you to take the test. Seen it a hundred times. This is how the system in Wisconsin works.

 

[KA-BAR]

KA-BAR, hey bro how ya doing. Just info, I have some knowledge in this area and I can guarantee every lawyer I know will tell you to take the test. Seen it a hundred times. This is how the system in Wisconsin works.

HI, I dont have much knowledge in this area thats why Im saying to do what the lawyer told my buddy and from what i have seen a few times it worked. If you take the test that just gives them proof you are intoxicated where as if you do nothing its your word against his and lawyer can get you offi. I think it differs alot from state to state.

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Sorry to keep posting but I keep thinking of things as i go. Here are some questions for you. What state are you in, what field sobriety tasks did the officer ask you to perform, was the event recorded by video camera (from the police cruiser) or recorded for sound by micro cassette, what information did you volunteer to the officer such as how much you had to drink etc. Just some starter questions.

Thanks for all the help bro. I am in Ohio. He had me follow a pin/light with my eyes and walk one foot in front of the other and count. Then I took the breathalizer test. I don't know if anything was recorded/taped or not. I told the cop I had a few beers around midnight.(it was 4-4:30 when I was pulled over.

 

[KA-BAR]

im from ohio also and since you already blowed your best change get off or get it reduced is to find a kick ass lawyer and plan on spending 3-5k! But it will be worth it in the long run.

 

[Mr Scrum]

Bro, I just got convicted for 1 in CA. I blew a .25.and .27. I got a lawyer because I had some other stuff on my record that could have got me some nice jailtime w/ this DUI conviction. Anyways, the lawyer cost me $3K. He didnt get me off, but made sure they didnt bring that other shit against me, and got me the minimum. $1400 fine (monthly installments). 30 day suspended license- no driving at all. If pulled over, automatic 2 weeks in the clink. after 30 days, 5 mos restricted driving priveldge (to and from work). 9 months acohol class (once a week and its kinda expensive). Plus my insurance is gonnna skyrocket. Like I said , the DA wanted to throw the book at me, but my lawyer made sure that didnt happen. The whole thing is really bad news and has really put a damper on my life.

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

$3-$5k is outrageous but worth it I guess. Is there any chance I can keep my license if I go that route? Also, I suppose they'll want some money up front and then I can make payments to them?

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

Hi again Phreak. Ok those tests are pretty standard. The eye test is called the "Horizontal Gaze Nystagmus". If administered correctly it is the most acurate at indicating a blood alcohol level above the legal limit. What this test does is shows the eyeball jerking. It occurs naturally but is much more pronounced when alcohol is introduced into the system. When the officer has you follow the pen he is watching each eye independently. I guess you can look at it this way. With no alcohol your eyes follow the pen smoothly like a marble rolling on glass. Introduce a fair amount of alcohol and they eyes begin to jerk as you follow the pen, kinda like that same marble now rolling across sandpaper.

The "walk and turn test" or walking down the line is also standard. It is called a divided attention test. There is the instruction phase and then the physical stage. Officer is looking for you not to touch each heel to toe step, raising your arms for balance, stepping off the line, improper turn, etc.

The "breathalyzer" used on the side of the road by the officer is called the "P.B.T." or preliminary breath test. This is also used for "probable cause" for the arrest by the officer but is generally not admissable in court except for motion hearings.

I would consult a lawyer and tell him as much as you remember and be truthful. See what he or she thinks about your case. Be careful with some. There are those who will say they will take your case no matter what. Consider the pro's and con's with the cost of a lawyer and the cost of a conviction. Like i said earlier having a lawyer does not guarantee victory or in some cases even lessening the penalties. Check around with more than one before you make a decision.

The main thing is "NO MORE DRIVING AFTER YOU HAVE BEEN DRINKING". Don't want to lecture but you know what i mean. Good luck bro!

 

[KA-BAR]

$3-$5k is outrageous but worth it I guess. Is there any chance I can keep my license if I go that route? Also, I suppose they'll want some money up front and then I can make payments to them?

If he can get it knocked down to wreckless op you can keep your license.

 

[Mr Scrum]

There is no way it will got knocked down to a reckless if he blew a .29. The only way you can hope to get off is w/ some sort of technicality. By this i mean the cop or the person administring the breath test has to fuck something up. If he blew in the low .10's a lawyer perhaps could get him bumped down to a reckless. BAC of .29 is way to high.

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

Good point KA-BAR. Reckless is a helluva lot better than an O.W.I./D.U.I. And your are correct that each state is different. Up here the legal limit is currently .10 for blood alcohol content but is switching I believe in 2003 to .08. Don't know how much of an impact that will have though honestly. People will still be out there.

 

[The Whole F/N Show]

I was just in traffic for speeding and the judge threw everyone's case out who's arresting officer wasn't there. And yes even a guy there for DUI totally got off. Talk about a lucky bastard. And I didn't do too shabby either. I beat a ticket that would've been about $300.

 

[poon daddy]

OK, I am here now and can shed dome light on the subject.
Ka-bar, I think your advice is a tad bit misleading.
You can choose to say nothing. It will not assist your cause at all.
Point in question, I stop a car I suspect of Drunk driving, I walk up and talk to the driver. I smell a odor of intoxicants coming from said driver. I ask him/her to step from the vehicle and perform 1-3 sobriety tests. If they fail one or more I move on top a P.B.T.. which is NOT a Breathalyzer. The P.BT. only acts as another sobriety test, except it provides me with a B.A.C. (blood alcohol content). In Mi if its over a .10 you may go to jail. Its up to ME, I HAVE DISCRETION. ALL ASSES go to jail.
Then at the station I will ask that the driver submit to a BREATHALYZER. In Mi we have implied consent. What does that mean you ask? Well when you sign for your ops in Mi you are saying that if you are ever in said situation you WILL provide a Breath sample. If you dont a couple thing will happen.
1- Your ops is gone for 1year and 6 point will be added to your driving record. THIS IS AIN ADDITION TO COURT ACTIONS...
2- I will contact a Judge and get a search warrant for your Blood. Then I will take you to a Hospital and have them draw appx 20 cc's of blood. This Will happen,even if you have to be held down.
Then you will charged appx $500 more for that action. lab and hospital fees etc..
I have heard people say " yea but that takes a long time to do that" . Nope With a Blood draw from time of the stop to the completin of the report appx 3hrs.
Granted not all places will take these actions. i.e Big cities.
Ok I now await the flames........

 

[SONNY SIXKILLER]

What's up POON DADDY! No flames coming from me bro. All info given by you checks out with me. Here in Wisconsin to get a blood draw you do not need a judge or warrant. Officer can do it since there are "exigent circumstances". The blood packet gets sent out for analysis in Madison, wi and the results are sent to the officer and offender within 7-10 days. Also in Wisconsin the department which has the blood draw performed gets charged, not the offender. Each state is obviously different. I was just trying to give the PHREAK some info and heads up on what to expect.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Iron Freak, firstly, let me give you the real scoop:

You neglected to mention what state this was in. Laws and penalties differ greatly from state to state.

A .293 breath test is extremely bad. Do not expect leniency as a "first time" offender. Expect the judge to max you out for your state. (I used to work as a counselor in the joint. I saw thousands of breath and urine tests. I only saw a test higher than .293 once... and that was only because the guy had just taken a straight swig off a bottle of Everclear.)

Do not go into court without a DUI attorney. Do not expect to get a light sentence. You will be maxed out for whatever a judge can give to a first time DUI. Penalties are set by the state so the judge only has marginal choice. He can give you the high end or the low end or anything in between. You will get the high end.

If you are looking at a jail sentence in your state, see if your attorney can get your time served in a work furlough facility so that you can keep your job.

 

[ZenMachine]

OK, I am here now and can shed dome light on the subject.
Ka-bar, I think your advice is a tad bit misleading.
You can choose to say nothing. It will not assist your cause at all.
Point in question, I stop a car I suspect of Drunk driving, I walk up and talk to the driver. I smell a odor of intoxicants coming from said driver. I ask him/her to step from the vehicle and perform 1-3 sobriety tests. If they fail one or more I move on top a P.B.T.. which is NOT a Breathalyzer. The P.BT. only acts as another sobriety test, except it provides me with a B.A.C. (blood alcohol content). In Mi if its over a .10 you may go to jail. Its up to ME, I HAVE DISCRETION. ALL ASSES go to jail.
Then at the station I will ask that the driver submit to a BREATHALYZER. In Mi we have implied consent. What does that mean you ask? Well when you sign for your ops in Mi you are saying that if you are ever in said situation you WILL provide a Breath sample. If you dont a couple thing will happen.
1- Your ops is gone for 1year and 6 point will be added to your driving record. THIS IS AIN ADDITION TO COURT ACTIONS...
2- I will contact a Judge and get a search warrant for your Blood. Then I will take you to a Hospital and have them draw appx 20 cc's of blood. This Will happen,even if you have to be held down.
Then you will charged appx $500 more for that action. lab and hospital fees etc..
I have heard people say " yea but that takes a long time to do that" . Nope With a Blood draw from time of the stop to the completin of the report appx 3hrs.
Granted not all places will take these actions. i.e Big cities.
Ok I now await the flames........

Not to hijack the thread but..

Poon Daddy, I am going to infere that you are in law enforcement? I have heard of a way to avoid getting the arrest for DUI and I wanted to run it by you and see if it has merit. If you are getting pulled over and you know you have had way too much to drink. I was advised to turn off you vehicle remove the keys, roll down your window and drop them outside. Then roll up the window, close your eyes and take a nap. Don't talk, don't acknowledge the police nothing. The assumption is that they can't search your vehicle without a warrant. This is just something I have been curios about.

Back to the topic at hand. Iron Freak. You absolutely need to get an attorney. Find one that specializes in DUI. They may get it reduced.

Zen

 

[Newbie2building]

With that blood/alcohol level you will definitely get the DUI on your record. At this point it probably doesn't matter if you get a lawyer or just use the public defender. The laws are pretty uniform for this stuff, and there is a minimum sentence regardless. You will probably lose your license for at least 6 months, but you may be able to drive just for work with a restricted license if you apply for it. They will take your license from you at court. You will have a hefty fine and probably 1 year probabtion. I think they may even give you 30 days, of which you can do community service instead. Just take this as a lesson. It only take 1 foot and 1 second to kill someone else. You could have killed 100 people in 4 miles, so you might as well drop that response. Just show your remorse and take your consequences like a man. Being that you're 22, you don't even have to tell your parents. I really hope this wakes you up. Drinking and driving is the #1 cause of accidental deaths between 17 and 27, or something like that. Don't be a statistic.

Good luck

 

[KA-BAR]

OK, I am here now and can shed dome light on the subject.
Ka-bar, I think your advice is a tad bit misleading.
You can choose to say nothing. It will not assist your cause at all.
Point in question, I stop a car I suspect of Drunk driving, I walk up and talk to the driver. I smell a odor of intoxicants coming from said driver. I ask him/her to step from the vehicle and perform 1-3 sobriety tests. If they fail one or more I move on top a P.B.T.. which is NOT a Breathalyzer. The P.BT. only acts as another sobriety test, except it provides me with a B.A.C. (blood alcohol content). In Mi if its over a .10 you may go to jail. Its up to ME, I HAVE DISCRETION. ALL ASSES go to jail.
Then at the station I will ask that the driver submit to a BREATHALYZER. In Mi we have implied consent. What does that mean you ask? Well when you sign for your ops in Mi you are saying that if you are ever in said situation you WILL provide a Breath sample. If you dont a couple thing will happen.
1- Your ops is gone for 1year and 6 point will be added to your driving record. THIS IS AIN ADDITION TO COURT ACTIONS...
2- I will contact a Judge and get a search warrant for your Blood. Then I will take you to a Hospital and have them draw appx 20 cc's of blood. This Will happen,even if you have to be held down.
Then you will charged appx $500 more for that action. lab and hospital fees etc..
I have heard people say " yea but that takes a long time to do that" . Nope With a Blood draw from time of the stop to the completin of the report appx 3hrs.
Granted not all places will take these actions. i.e Big cities.
Ok I now await the flames........

I dont care what you say Ive seen it work. It man not happen in every case but I will listen to a lawer before I listen to any cop. I cooperated and think it helped me plus I passed all my test and he still wanted me to blow in that machine and I told him no. He was suprized that I did not blow and just told me I was not under arrest he was just waiting for my stuff to be called back in to make sure everything was clear. Then he gave me a warning.

 

[KA-BAR]

Id also like to share a few funny ass stories that happen around here. My sisters boyfriend a few years back used to drink alot. He had one dui already and was being pulled over again. well he just gunned it. lol. he had a mustang cobra with about 320 horse power and knew the back roads well and it did not take long to loose the state patrol. For the next few days cops where patroling my sisters apt all day and kept asking her where he was. Whell he finally got ahold of his attorney and was told not to make a statement and guess what. Nothing happened to him.

This is also a true story that was the talk of the town for a long time. 3 really drunk guys slam into a tree and get out and see there truck is just demolished and the cops come and see they are all really drunk. Well the city cop ask who was driving and they all look at each other and say they cannot remember and stuck with that story and again nothing happened because they did not know who was driving.

One more. heh. My wife cousin a few years back had left the bar with a couple of bar whores and his brother and was on his way back to his house when he seen the lights come on. he told the whores to just tell tell the cop that that they did not know his name they just met him and told his brother the same thing. He stopped the truck go out and ran like hell! this story kills me . He was so tore up from jiggers bob wire ect......... anyway he made it to a friends house and later found out that they had the dogs after him and the whole 9 yards and the 3 in the truck went through ALOT of shit but they all stuck to there story. and yes nothing happened to him either.

They are all lucky though. This kind of stuff prolly does not happen often and I know if you get caught running it felony . Just thought id like to share these. peace.

 

[poon daddy]

Ka-bar, well you can choose to listen to whom ever you want. It does not matter to me. However, since I have been a Police officer for 9 years now I know more about criminal law then many LAWYERS. The scoop is this. In Mi if you get a DUI,OUIL etc, the thought is I better get a Lawyer. Well here is a little known tidbit. YOu can get the SAME deal, lesser offense, your Lawyer would if you go in there alone. But you just saved yourself $500 OR $1000 BUCKS in Lawyer fees.
Now its not like that in every state!!! But I bet its not that much different.
Point in question, A guy that I used to work with quit being a Cop and became a Lawyer in FL. All he will handle is DUI first offense. He charges like $1000 a case. gets em all dealt down to a lesser offense. THE SAME YOU COULD HAVE DONE ON YOUR OWN!!!
YES there are many stories of " I was so hammered and I did so and so the cop let me go" HINT, You ever think the Cop thought better and did not feel like messing with your Monkey ass??!!??! Hmmmmmmmmmmm
Zen, yes I hear in Wi they are tough on everyone!!!!!
In regards to your IDEA, well I have already observed your operating the vehicle. I have a couple ways to deal with the situation. Drive away.. DOUBT THAT. Or Break the glass and place you under arrest for a Boat load of things... I had something very much like that a few years ago. The only thing that does is piis the cop off and add fines and court to you .

Poon

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Thanks for such a big response guys!
I got a couple more questions. I have to go to court today, I plan to just ask for a continuence(sp) to give me time to get a lawyer. My questions are IF I can get a pass to drive to/from work can I get that today or will I need my lawyer. Also will my insurance company still cover me if my license are suspended but I have a pass for driving to work?

 

[ZenMachine]

Zen, yes I hear in Wi they are tough on everyone!!!!!
In regards to your IDEA, well I have already observed your operating the vehicle. I have a couple ways to deal with the situation. Drive away.. DOUBT THAT. Or Break the glass and place you under arrest for a Boat load of things... I had something very much like that a few years ago. The only thing that does is piis the cop off and add fines and court to you .

Poon

Poon,

This is sort of what I suspected. Which is why I asked. That was advice given by a lawyer to place you in the most defensible position. (I am assuming, unlawful search)

Phreak,

Let us know how court goes.

Zen

 

[Ir0n PhReAk]

Poon,

This is sort of what I suspected. Which is why I asked. That was advice given by a lawyer to place you in the most defensible position. (I am assuming, unlawful search)

Phreak,

Let us know how court goes.

Zen

Sure will bro, I'm really nervous b/c I HAVE to drive there. I can't get a ride and I've called and explained but they won't let me reschedule. Thanks for all the help.

 

[poon daddy]

phreak, I would bet you are out of court by the time you read this. I hope that it went as well as possible.
If you have any more questions you can shoot my a line.
In the future, THINK...............
That was one very expensive ride of 4 miles. A stretch limo would have been far less then your going to pay...
Zen, that lawyer gave you some messed up advice. Thats the type of advice that makes him more CASH.
Poon

 

[ZenMachine]

phreak, I would bet you are out of court by the time you read this. I hope that it went as well as possible.
If you have any more questions you can shoot my a line.
In the future, THINK...............
That was one very expensive ride of 4 miles. A stretch limo would have been far less then your going to pay...
Zen, that lawyer gave you some messed up advice. Thats the type of advice that makes him more CASH.
Poon

Never used it, but can see the logic in it. With all the rules you have to follow as an officer, anything I can do to make you "screw up" makes it easier for a good lawyer to get me off.

I don't advocate it or drinking and driving for that matter, but I did want to get an officers opinion on the subject.

Thanks,

Zen

 

[oompha-loompha]

KA-BAR. I noticed that you are in the state of Ohio, the law varies,state to state. 5-8 Grand for a lawyer CRAZY. I'm in PA
and even if the charges gets dropped to wreckless driving..
you still lose your license.

 

[KA-BAR]

KA-BAR. I noticed that you are in the state of Ohio, the law varies,state to state. 5-8 Grand for a lawyer CRAZY. I'm in PA
and even if the charges gets dropped to wreckless driving..
you still lose your license.

There are lots of lawyers that are much cheaper but you can basically get off just about anything for the right price. Actually There is one who pretty much Guarantees you get off for 8k he just digs and digs untill he finds something they fucked up. even if you lose you license with wreckess op its still 1000x better than DUI.

 

[Jaws3D]

PoonDaddy I agree with your statement that as a police officer you probably know more law than a lawyer. Most lawyers usually specialize, for example DUI, as a police officer you must be able to pull from your brain all aspects of criminal law at a moments notice.

Always, I mean Always consult with a lawyer, you be the judge if it is worth it to you to pay $3000+ for a lawyer if he can get you off, then so be it, if not be a man. The police always win even if you win, because it will always cost you dearly one way or another, either monetary or criminal record wise

In Canada if you refuse the breathalyzer, you will get a stiffer penalty then if you actually blew. This is granted that the officer had reasonable gorunds to read the demand, but contrary to popular beleif, police officers are some of the best educated people in the country (Canada anyway), and how would you fight a refusal.

I don't know much about American criminal law, but can't imagine it to be all that much different. Just remember you have a choice to make, but either way your gonna pay.

 

[poon daddy]

Jaws, I know in Canada things do differ a bit. I have had appx 250 drunk arrests over the course of my career. How many have actually gone to court????
1!!!!!!!!!!
I won that one to.
Not to be a typical Dickhead cop, and brag. I am far from the likes of some of those I share a Badge with. I dont like arresting drunks its a PAIN in the ass.

Also JAWS you are my hero livng up there in B.C. . My girl and I were there last summer. Stayed up in Whistler then down in Victoria and last but not least Vancouver. Awsome Time.......

 

[Newbie2building]

Thanks for such a big response guys!
I got a couple more questions. I have to go to court today, I plan to just ask for a continuence(sp) to give me time to get a lawyer. My questions are IF I can get a pass to drive to/from work can I get that today or will I need my lawyer. Also will my insurance company still cover me if my license are suspended but I have a pass for driving to work?

you can probably get the suspended license the same day or shortly thereafter. the public defender could do that for you. your insurance carrier might keep you depending on your history, but your rates will probably skyrocket. Good luck.