Dermacrine or Phyto-Test

[bigdofba]

I've been wanting to try out some of PP products for a while and have finally decided to do it.

I can't decide on which product I want to try. I was thininking about trying Phyto-Test or Dermacrine.

I am training natty so I was wondering which product would be the best for someone like me to use.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

get the ultimate lean stack, its working great for me and my cals are cut trying to lose fat, and my lifts are still going up.

if you just want those two, get them both, and you need sustain alpha for your pct.

-Legacy

 

[swole]

Dermacrine has pro-hormone properties

but you will absolutely love it, i used it for a pre-PCT from my past test and EQ cycle

helped ease anxiety and kept me strong and lean

PM me for a discount code

 

[the_alcatraz]

Derma has great reviews. I would strongly suggest you give it a try.

 

[bigdofba]

get the ultimate lean stack, its working great for me and my cals are cut trying to lose fat, and my lifts are still going up.

if you just want those two, get them both, and you need sustain alpha for your pct.

-Legacy

Wait a minute. I thought people used these products for their PCT and recovery. Are you telling me that if I use them naturally by themselves I still need to do PCT??

 

[james629]

DJ, how many days are you into the stack? today is 14 for me and I am having same results as you . Thing is, I cant see how the dermicrine is going to make it another 14 days. I am using 4 pumps but the bottle seems over halfway empty. The label says you should be able to do 5 pumps for 28 days(NO WAY).I hope I dont have to order another bottle just to finish after already buying the stack.

 

[DJLegacy2k1]

Yeah you should be doing 4 pumps per day, mine is getting a little short also, but Im on day 18 or 19 I have to check, I might be a day or 2 short, but thats not that bad, I can live with it. Id stretch it as far as you can, finish the derma, then run Alpha, give it a couple weeks, then just run the stack again, Im over dosing the Phyto a little 5ml x2 a day instead of 4ml, no biggie, just shortens it up a couple days. Looks like I have a SURPLUSS of CLA though. Id just run everything as far as you can and go from there. Any MAJOR issues, contact PP, they will take care of you.

OH and BIG, people use derma as pct or a transition off of AAS. If you run Dermacrine, it is basically a prohormone so to protect yourself you would want to use Alpha to make sure your natural production is running 100% when you are done. Its not really a big deal, just do it, it can only help you and all of PP's products work WELL!

Anyone, feel free to PM me if you have any other questions, Im heading in to work till 7 and I will answer any questions then.

-Legacy

 

[Primordial Performance]

Wait a minute. I thought people used these products for their PCT and recovery. Are you telling me that if I use them naturally by themselves I still need to do PCT??

Yeah, it’s good to run the Sustain Alpha after the Dermacrine to keep the test levels elevated, but plenty of guys have ran the Dermacrine before without any PCT.

If you’re only running Dermacrine for 4 weeks then you should recover just fine without PCT. The Sustain just kicks it up a notch.

-Pp

 

[Primordial Performance]

DJ, how many days are you into the stack? today is 14 for me and I am having same results as you . Thing is, I cant see how the dermicrine is going to make it another 14 days. I am using 4 pumps but the bottle seems over halfway empty. The label says you should be able to do 5 pumps for 28 days(NO WAY).I hope I dont have to order another bottle just to finish after already buying the stack.

The bottle should last 25 days at 5 pumps a day, or 30 days at the 4 pump dose. (instead of 28-31 days)

We had to swich lotion pumps last month which now pump a tad bit more than our original pumps, so the labels need to be updated on the product to reflect this. (the instructional sheets are up to date)

So, I recommend you bump down to 4 pumps ED, which is the 'standard' dose we now recommend with the newer pumps.

-Pp

 

[james629]

PP, I am using 4 pumps a day and that is all I used from the start, not 5 and I still dont think it is going to make it but I will let you know. The side of your product says, "At the average rcommended dose(40 sprays or 5 lotion pumps), dermacrine will last 28 days."

 

[Primordial Performance]

PP, I am using 4 pumps a day and that is all I used from the start, not 5 and I still dont think it is going to make it but I will let you know. The side of your product says, "At the average rcommended dose(40 sprays or 5 lotion pumps), dermacrine will last 28 days."

Yep, the bottle should say 5 pumps will last 25 days.

Please let me know how long it lasts for you though.

-Pp

 

[james629]

Ttt. ???

 

[Primordial Performance]

Phyto-Test is back instock!

Phyto-Testosterone - A natural anabolic fenugreek formula w/ real Testofen

-Pp

 

[conundrum]

I like them both. Can't go wrong either way.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Check it out...

We are giving 20% off the Lean Muscle Stack [Dermacrine & Phyto] right now ....

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...-off-your-order-plus-free-fedex-shipping.html

Just enter LEANMUSCLE in the coupon field right after adding the lean muscle stack to the cart.

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

Wait a minute. I thought people used these products for their PCT and recovery. Are you telling me that if I use them naturally by themselves I still need to do PCT??

Sustain Alphaand most of all the other products like Toco-8,EndoAmp,Phyto-Testosterone,CLA,Testosterone Recovery Stack are all great for pct. sustain alpha is for pct, but Dermacrine is the only product that is not for pct. Its strong ass shit. Its a good idea to run sustain after but if all you run is 4 weeks of derma pct will not be needed. If you or any one wants discounts or info on any of the products just send me a pm.

I myself would use both of them together.

 

[2evil]

Ran dermacrine for 4 weeks followed by sustain for 4 weeks. Very happy with the results. I've been dieting down all along but have gained strength and size while cutting fat on these. Really helped me lean out.

Noticed kind of a rush 20-30 minutes after using the sustain. This only happened for about the first week.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Lean out for sure... Im about to jump on my next Dermacrine cycle... along with a ketogenic diet.

-Pp