I was thinking of purchasing one or the other, I really don't know which one would be better and also I was wondering if they need to be stacked with something or can they be taken on there own? I was thinking that taking dermacrine alone to help when on a cutting phaze, would this be helpful or would I be wasting money and possible ruin my body because its not being stacked with anything? Sorry for sounding like a jerk, I am new to this and I've only taken N.O. products pre workout and just recently added creatine. Please only serious responses.