Dermacrine Hype or Help?

[Caleb's Tree]

I've been reading a lot on this forum, and have become a bit interested in Dermacrine, but have also heard folks say that this stuff doesn't actually do a damn thing for you that your own body, and a good diet and proper routine can do for you. Thought I'd ask you guys what you thought, and yes, I have read some of the threads on Dermacrine already.

Don't respond though if you are already pimping the product. I just want first time users, or guys that have gone back to it because they liked what it did for them, or guys that have no vested interest in pimping the stuff and want to know if it works.

I might try it in about 3-4 months if I get a solid handle on what the stuff is capable of or if it's worth my time to do some kind of stack with Phyto or something, or I might just stick with what I been doing. Hell, while I am at it does Phyto work? Any thoughts on that would be appreciated as well.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Definitely a help. (And I'm not a product pimper)

Dermacrine isn't AAS, but no one's claiming it is. If nothing else, it's great for improving general feeling of well-being. Gives you that little extra edge to push through a workout and it's great for the libido.

Worth it, IMHO!

 

[searay]

i did a phyrto / derma stack about 2 months ago . i just ordered some more derma but in place of the phyto i got some of P.F.'s fadosia aggressive. just cant take the taste of the phyto again. i did like the stuff though and would def reccomend.

 

[muscleup]

Certainly could not hurt...However I would not use it in place of a "standard" PCT but could make a great addition. I have read many positive reviews on it.

 

[KD1]

i did a phyrto / derma stack about 2 months ago . i just ordered some more derma but in place of the phyto i got some of P.F.'s fadosia aggressive. just cant take the taste of the phyto again. i did like the stuff though and would def reccomend.

I had to stop taking phyto because it gave me the shits so bad my asshole started hurting 24/7. It didnt start off so bad, but the longer I took it the more frequent I shat. When wk 3 started I was shitting 4-5x a day so I quit half way in.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Certainly could not hurt...However I would not use it in place of a "standard" PCT but could make a great addition. I have read many positive reviews on it.

Just FYI, we havnt recommended the Dermacrine for PCT in over a year. We found that too much DHEA was getting into the system and that it was like actualy being "on" so it was inhibiting natural hormone production.

So now we have the 'Sustian Alpha' which is made for natural T stimulation and PCT. (without DHEA)

-Pp

 

[al420]

Nothing OTC is even close to decent for a real PCT, period.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Nothing OTC is even close to decent for a real PCT, period.

That’s not what our customers say, not to mention blood tests from HRT patients that have an equal boost in testosterone from Sustain compared to Nolva or clomid.

-Pp

 

[Ross]

Nothing OTC is even close to decent for a real PCT, period.

That is 100% WRONG.

According to clinical studies, the active ingredients in Dermacrine/Sustain and the active ingredients in Androgenerator BOTH increase total and free testosterone just as much if not MORE than traditional PCT therapies. Stacking the two would produce the greatest natural testosterone increases physiologically possible.

As an advanced bodybuilder, I would choose AndroGenerator/Sustain over Clomid/Nolva ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

 

[james629]

I have been on the Ultimate stack now for 11days and can honestly say that my lifts have steadily incresed over the last 7 days and libido is up. Nothing dramatic, but noticible in the gym. Next week will be the test for me because our routine is changing again to heavy after two weeks of a modified workout to rest the joints a little. It is an 8 week program so at the end I will be completely honest with the results. Also one of my lifting partners started it at the same time so we will see. If you are considering it Needto is the man, he hooked me up with a real deal.

 

[swole]

i pimp derma because i used and loved it first. period.

 

[Selfcentor]

It works Very well for my PCT and i have really heard maybe one person say it did not work.

 

[muscleup]

Well thats what I meant...The new version. I have heard good things about it.

Just FYI, we havnt recommended the Dermacrine for PCT in over a year. We found that too much DHEA was getting into the system and that it was like actualy being "on" so it was inhibiting natural hormone production.

So now we have the 'Sustian Alpha' which is made for natural T stimulation and PCT. (without DHEA)

-Pp

 

[xrsist]

Just FYI, we havnt recommended the Dermacrine for PCT in over a year. We found that too much DHEA was getting into the system and that it was like actualy being "on" so it was inhibiting natural hormone production.

So now we have the 'Sustian Alpha' which is made for natural T stimulation and PCT. (without DHEA)

-Pp

im still waiting for you guys to find an AU distributor so we dont have to pay ridiculous prices for shipping, because at the moment clomid is much cheaper

 

[digit0x]

Just FYI, we havnt recommended the Dermacrine for PCT in over a year. We found that too much DHEA was getting into the system and that it was like actualy being "on" so it was inhibiting natural hormone production.

So now we have the 'Sustian Alpha' which is made for natural T stimulation and PCT. (without DHEA)

-Pp

Phew thought you were about to make me throw away my sustain.

 

[Caleb's Tree]

That is 100% WRONG.

According to clinical studies, the active ingredients in Dermacrine/Sustain and the active ingredients in Androgenerator BOTH increase total and free testosterone just as much if not MORE than traditional PCT therapies. Stacking the two would produce the greatest natural testosterone increases physiologically possible.

As an advanced bodybuilder, I would choose AndroGenerator/Sustain over Clomid/Nolva ALL DAY, EVERY DAY.

Is AndroGenerator Better than Dermacrine?

What about doing Dermacrine\Sustain stack?

How I am understanding the product is that you do something like Phyto, Dermacrine, and followup with Sustain, but now see some guys saying stack Sustain with Derma, and then stay on Sustain for your PCT.

Thoughts on that?

 

[Caleb's Tree]

i did a phyrto / derma stack about 2 months ago . i just ordered some more derma but in place of the phyto i got some of P.F.'s fadosia aggressive. just cant take the taste of the phyto again. i did like the stuff though and would def reccomend.

Sea Ray, How'd you compare Phyto to Fadosia?

Not taste, but benefits since you took both?

 

[Primordial Performance]

Is AndroGenerator Better than Dermacrine?

What about doing Dermacrine\Sustain stack?

How I am understanding the product is that you do something like Phyto, Dermacrine, and followup with Sustain, but now see some guys saying stack Sustain with Derma, and then stay on Sustain for your PCT.

Thoughts on that?

Androgenerator is a totally different product than Dermacrine.

Dermacrine is something that you would cycle, or use during a cycle because it has pro-hormones in it. (Its basicaly like being "on") There really isn’t much point to use Sustain at the same time as Dermacrine though.

Androgenerator and Sustain Alpha are two products that would be used for PCT to naturally stimulate test production. Id say they both complement each other and work synergistically.

-Pp

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Nothing OTC is even close to decent for a real PCT, period.

I would definitely have to disagree with that. You can check out my experience with sustain for pct here: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...post-cycle-pct-post-cycle-therapy-590135.html

 

[Ross]

Androgenerator is a totally different product than Dermacrine.

Dermacrine is something that you would cycle, or use during a cycle because it has pro-hormones in it. (Its basicaly like being "on") There really isn’t much point to use Sustain at the same time as Dermacrine though.

Androgenerator and Sustain Alpha are two products that would be used for PCT to naturally stimulate test production. Id say they both complement each other and work synergistically.

-Pp

Great post Eric.

I would also like to add, that AndroGenerator also contains a Muscle Cell generating Matrix that will drastically increase muscle mass and strength! So, AndroGenerator can also be used by ITSELF for great natural gains, as well as for PCT.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Great post Nelson.

I would also like to add, that AndroGenerator also contains a Muscle Cell generating Matrix that will drastically increase muscle mass and strength! So, AndroGenerator can also be used by ITSELF for great natural gains, as well as for PCT.

Nelson?!...lol


-Pp (Eric)

 

[Ross]

Nelson?!...lol


-Pp (Eric)

LOL, I know your name, I must have been thinking about Nelson!

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

LOL, I know your name, I must have been thinking about Nelson!

 

[hurricane]

Great post Eric.

I would also like to add, that AndroGenerator also contains a Muscle Cell generating Matrix that will drastically increase muscle mass and strength! So, AndroGenerator can also be used by ITSELF for great natural gains, as well as for PCT.

is any vets from here on an androgenerator trial run? would like to hear some 1st hand experiences

 

[702daswoll1]

Its gettin gay in here.

 

[mus1cjunk1e]

Its gettin gay in here.

 

[Caleb's Tree]

is any vets from here on an androgenerator trial run? would like to hear some 1st hand experiences

I'd like to hear about that as well.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Good thread here..

-Pp

 

[needtogetaas]

Always a help

 

[SodaMan]

is this "androgenerator" the one made by supreme sports? does anybody sponsor it on ef?

 

[SpyWizard]

That’s not what our customers say, not to mention blood tests from HRT patients that have an equal boost in testosterone from Sustain compared to Nolva or clomid.

-Pp

and.. you don't get impaired vision from using it like nolva and clomid..

 

[hog#head#cheese]

I will be ordering PP's products soon and will NEVER doubt that they work as I know this dude from his previous life and i can GUARANTEE That I Grew like a weed off his supps and all my friends did as well Bump for da best in cutting research!!

 

[Primordial Performance]

I will be ordering PP's products soon and will NEVER doubt that they work as I know this dude from his previous life and i can GUARANTEE That I Grew like a weed off his supps and all my friends did as well Bump for da best in cutting research!!

-Pp