Deltoid training. Tell me your workout!

[gjohnson5]

Your problem is that you've had heavy weight training ingrained in your head as if it's the only way. There's more then 1 way to skin a cat.
Hell I quads have been over 30 inches and I've never squatted over 450...

The name of the game is progressive overload. Look that term up. Getting the poundages up isn't the only way to achieve progressive overload. You've had conventional methods sledge hammered in your head so hard you can see anything else.

Look man, I started this thread for shoulder training advice, so don't come argue with me about high rep 500+ rep gay ass hindu squats. I know high rep training can burn calories, and you can get tone from that. So does heavy weight training, breathing and blinking burn calories.

Doing 500 rep hindu judo squats isn't going to get your legs beefy like a 10-15 rep set of 350+ lb squats.

I could care less about 500 rep squats. That is not "getting your swell on" at the gym, and if you think so in anyway, that's sad. It's cardio, and I was never talking about cardio. Cardio is not weight lifting. You saying 500 rep squats is a form of weigh lifting is the same as me sayin a 10,000 rep bycycle cardio workout is the same as doing 10,000 rep one-legged leg presses for tone. And I'll be damned if I'm being narrow. I don't give a shit.


I'm not going to even discuss this any further because you clearly don't understand the point I was trying to make. In the context of lifting for maximum size and strength, getting the tone to your muscle will come from doing cardio and low body fat. High rep lifting in your "Un-narrow" view of 500+ reps is not in the least weight training, but is another form of cardio and NOT high rep weight training. And, yes, in the context of maximum strength and hypertrophy, 30 reps is HIGH. End of discussion.

 

[dabuffguy]

Your problem is that you've had heavy weight training ingrained in your head as if it's the only way. There's more then 1 way to skin a cat.
Hell I quads have been over 30 inches and I've never squatted over 450...

The name of the game is progressive overload. Look that term up. Getting the poundages up isn't the only way to achieve progressive overload. You've had conventional methods sledge hammered in your head so hard you can see anything else.

Conventional because it works and it's what I intend to do. I got a little hot, sorry.

See the thread in this section called "CUTTING-rep range?"

 

[gjohnson5]

Intersting the timing of that thread... You got any non-plat alters?
Anyway , yep just saw and disagreed with it

 

[dabuffguy]

Intersting the timing of that thread... You got any non-plat alters?
Anyway , yep just saw and disagreed with it

I keep seeing the word alter. Does that mean "Alias" as in an additional user name? Not me. Have mods check my IP's if you want.

 

[MichaelScott]

i want to read about shoulder workouts

 

[dabuffguy]

i want to read about shoulder workouts

+1

Sorry. Mr Johnson and I went off on a tangent.

Back on topic!

 

[dabuffguy]

BUMP to y'all.

 

[machine316]

do arnold presses at high reps after your barbell press. like 4 sets of 12. and the alcatraz is right, super sets are a must for shoulders.

 

[deathdroprob]

Already all you bros here, post your deltoid training regimen.

The body part I seem to lack is delts. I wasn't blessed with big shoulders, but not bad either. Not rear delts, but the front and laterals. My back is strong.
I have started to do a full workout specifically for deltoids including:

BB shoulder press 4 sets of 8-10

db press 3 sets of 8-10

Lateral raises 6 sets of 10-12 to a paralell position (or slightly more, to get a full contraction.)

Front raises 4 sets of 8-10, bringing the db well above parallel.


Now, a theory I have is this, and may be the problem of my lacking deltoids. The lateral deltoid muscles are small, and really cant move a lot of weight by themselves, so I use lighter weights for the lateral raises getting a little higher reps and more sets to really pump them up and focus them in the movement. Using heavier weights and stressing out a last rep seems like flirting with injury in the shoulder.

Lose the front raises and put some Bent over lateral Rasies in there for the rear delts. Your fronts will be getting heaps from all the pressing.

 

[dabuffguy]

Lose the front raises and put some Bent over lateral Rasies in there for the rear delts. Your fronts will be getting heaps from all the pressing.

Yep, already dropped those. I now have incorporated reverse flies (bent over lateral raises) and barbell and dumbell upright rows. The dumb bell upright rows really get those rear delts nicely too.