Deca Without PCT

[OldBazooka2]

I did a 4 week cycle of deca at 200mg/week about 3 months ago (my first cycle). I didn't use any PCT after my cycle. I followed the first year male cycle outlined in CME by Author L. Rea. About a month and a half later I started feeling tired all of the time. I went in for a physical and had some lab work done. My test levels came back really low and my red blood cell count came back high. Could this have been caused by the short deca cycle and lack of PCT?

Stats:
male
44 years old
235 lbs
18% bf
Been working out w/o gear for about 20 years.

 

[jeb0177]

yep. deca will shut you down real good, besides that I don't understand why you did a 4 week cycle if deca starts to work more or less by week 5 due to it's long ester

 

[tatman3177]

yep. deca will shut you down real good, besides that I don't understand why you did a 4 week cycle if deca starts to work more or less by week 5 due to it's long ester

yup... not only that but if you only did 4 weeks w/o pct and still had low test. seems you might have low test levels to begin with. wait a while and do blood tests again. if still low. then yup naturall low test levels(this is an opinion). hrt is an option.

 

[jeb0177]

yup... not only that but if you only did 4 weeks w/o pct and still had low test. seems you might have low test levels to begin with. wait a while and do blood tests again. if still low. then yup naturall low test levels(this is an opinion). hrt is an option.

besides that bro he's 44 yrs old, test levels start to decline at 27 i believe, I've read it but I don't remember though. yes I agree with you hrt it's an option. It also can be that his prolactin levels can be real high as well, maybe that's the problem, I suggest to do a pct of clomid of 3 weeks and hcg maybe that will boost his test levels and see if it works, but he will need to do a blood test after the 3 weeks after his pct and see if they raised up within the normal rate according to that "test age chart" and see what are the normal levels for a 44 yr old man.

 

[OldBazooka2]

yep. deca will shut you down real good, besides that I don't understand why you did a 4 week cycle if deca starts to work more or less by week 5 due to it's long ester

I only did a four week cycle because it was my first cycle and it was recommended as a first cycle in the book Chemical Muscle Enhancement by Rea.

 

[tatman3177]

besides that bro he's 44 yrs old, test levels start to decline at 27 i believe, I've read it but I don't remember though. yes I agree with you hrt it's an option. It also can be that his prolactin levels can be real high as well, maybe that's the problem, I suggest to do a pct of clomid of 3 weeks and hcg maybe that will boost his test levels and see if it works, but he will need to do a blood test after the 3 weeks after his pct and see if they raised up within the normal rate according to that "test age chart" and see what are the normal levels for a 44 yr old man.

you are correct. should do some pct to try and get back up first. but still might be naty low test levels b/c of age.

 

[jeb0177]

if I were you I would go to the endocrinologist to se what's wrong with your test levels period bro. go check yourself so you can feel better. don't you know that with low test levels we get menopause as well.?

 

[OldBazooka2]

if I were you I would go to the endocrinologist to se what's wrong with your test levels period bro. go check yourself so you can feel better. don't you know that with low test levels we get menopause as well.?

Yeah I read that about menopause or andropause. I did have more blood drawn for more extensive tests and I will be seeing an endocrinologist soon.

Thx for the info.

 

[johnny2timmes]

I am 27 years old and was also thinking about doing the 4 week deca only cycle as outlined by L Rea. He sates that PCT is not necessary due to the short duartion of the cycle. Do you guys recommend any PCT. If so, what do you recommend?

 

[Mr. Black]

I am 27 years old and was also thinking about doing the 4 week deca only cycle as outlined by L Rea. He sates that PCT is not necessary due to the short duartion of the cycle. Do you guys recommend any PCT. If so, what do you recommend?

L Rea sounds like a fucking idiot.