Deca vs tren for bulk

[DOM9]

I’m just about to start my bulk cycle and I’m so tired of using tren, I always get the following side effects: night sweats, insomnia, coughing my lungs up, zero appetite, heartburn.
Tren turns me into a zombie and my normally high appetite becomes non-existant...

I always run 700mg tren ace and would like to switch to deca/mast/test instead. Masteron because I have tons of it and it makes my mood great.

Which cycle would give the best muscle gains on a bulk? Obviously 2g deca is a lot but I’m a big guy and if I feel it gets too overwhelming I’ll lower it. Would love the joint benefits.

700mg Masteron
2000mg Deca (NPP) + AI
low dose test

VS

700mg tren A [my usual cycle]

Obviously I never want to run tren on a bulk again but I just want to know your opinion on how the 2 cycles compare.

Thanks.

 

[Fella Finn]

700mg of tren? Are you serious?
No wonder you are experiencing all those negative side effects.

 

[SteveMobsterG]

I'm a big guy. Not one of my cycles has exceeded 800mg total - ever.

 

[stevesmi]

i was once told by an IFBB pro that tren should never be ran higher than 250mgs a week. anything more is just more sides and counter productive.. i've ran tren many times at 200 to 400mgs a week and i agree with him 100% based on my own experiences too.. more isn't better with tren. food for thought for you

 

[cbbram]

Deca is superior to Tren for bulking

 

[RickRock13]

Well I've never gained a pound on tren, and deca I've gained a lot, so theres my opinion and experience on it

 

[schwartzy]

Deca all the way


Arnold

 

[dylangemelli]

deca wins all day on bulking vs tren... im just going to leave your tren dose alone... not worth it to even comment on it...

 

[schwartzy]

deca wins all day on bulking vs tren... im just going to leave your tren dose alone... not worth it to even comment on it...

Not to mention the 2G of Deca...Really??


Arnold

 

[dylangemelli]

yeah all completely unnecessary

 

[kieran a]

How can you even Inject all that a Turkey baster. ? I do 400 mil tren e and it's hard work. Just walking up stairs feels like you run up a mountain. And you got just to convince your self your not going to die.
And as for sleeping. It has it's own idea when you should sleep and when you walk up you have no idea of you dreamed or was reality. It really messes with you.
I would never go above 400. (2mil a week)

 

[kieran a]

There is also a ibf pro who Steve mob knows also that only takes 200mg of tren max a week. And if he is a pro and o ly takes that why do you need 800.

 

[SteveMobsterG]

There is also a ibf pro who Steve mob knows also that only takes 200mg of tren max a week. And if he is a pro and o ly takes that why do you need 800.

Remind me who that is.

 

[kieran a]

James L dont want to put full names. Recently competed in Ireland.

 

[kieran a]

Sure seen you as a friend of his to. Works at Powerhouse gym

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ cool...

 

[P0N]

Have to agree with the crowd on this one. Deca over tren for bulking, without question.
Also, holy hell, what is up with that tren dosing?!