deca test or tren test

[ThepoolGuy]

My next cycle will be either deca test or tren test. It will be my second cycle. I will also run AIFM throughout the cycle. Something like this......

1. 750mg Test E 1-12
500mg Deca 1-10
50 mg ed Winstrol 8-12

2. 750mg Test E 1-12
400mg Tren E 4-10
50mg ed Winstrol 8-12

I hear save the tren for later. I dont mind putting on weight I just want to gain muscle lose fat. I currently weigh 219lbs 15%bf im guessing and wouldnt mind getting up to around 230 then shread from there. So Im kinda leaning toward the deca cycle to get there then shread up with the tren cycle sound good?? Any advice would be helpful. Should I run the deca for the full 12 weeks or stop at ten. Proper pct with nolva/clomid will be there as well.

 

[boston789]

Im confused...are you asking which one you should run first? Are these two different cycles? If I were I would run the deca/test cycle during this fall/winter whatever and then in the spring run the tren cycle.

You can run the deca for 12 weeks. One thing is for sure though...I def would not run test/tren/deca in the same cycle.

 

[big_griff]

cycle number 2 looks delicious, pool guy. Very similar to what i will be running on my next round. Given your goals (gain muscle, lose fat) i think that the tren in there will serve your goals better than deca. Just keep an intelligent diet and drink lots of water bro!!!! best of luck, whatever you choose.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

Im confused...are you asking which one you should run first? Are these two different cycles? If I were I would run the deca/test cycle during this fall/winter whatever and then in the spring run the tren cycle.

You can run the deca for 12 weeks. One thing is for sure though...I def would not run test/tren/deca in the same cycle.

Yes which one first I suppose common sense would be run the deca test then tren test. Just wondering if I should add or lose anything. Any tweeks made? Plenty of time off each one and proper pct of course!!

 

[boston789]

OK...the only thing different I would do is make the deca go for 12 weeks...same mg ew though. I think other than that they look good. I ran a similar test/tren/winny cycle last winter. I always get great agins off of tren...I've ran it three times and im FIGHTING not to run it again.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

Why would you fight to not take it again if it gives you great gains? Also for all who have used deca will I get deca dick with 750 test 500 deca or is that just impossible with that much test. Has anyone ran a similar deca cycle what kind of size and strength gains can I expect with a high cal high protein healthy diet?

 

[gettnlarge01]

Deca sides are different for everybody so can"t help you there.Ran similar test/deca cycle for 16wks and gained 20lbs.

 

[boston789]

Why would you fight to not take it again if it gives you great gains? Also for all who have used deca will I get deca dick with 750 test 500 deca or is that just impossible with that much test. Has anyone ran a similar deca cycle what kind of size and strength gains can I expect with a high cal high protein healthy diet?

Have you ever taken tren before? The sides can be pretty fucked up.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

oh no Ive never taken tren

 

[gettnlarge01]

First time with tren you should use tran ace not enth.

 

[boxerjake]

To add the lb's your looking for deca and test , i'm not a fan of winny so i won't comment on that .

My last 7 weeks of test prop 100mg ED and tren ace 50 mg ED ( bumped to 75mg in week # 4 then 100mg week 6 and 7 ) has given me next to zero weight gain just a huge composition change .

Tren i'd save for down the road when the weaker steroids are no longer effective , as an example i'm 42 and this was my first tren cycle and i've been fucking with this shit for better then 20 years now .

Proper spacing and i still respond well to just about everything ( but winny ) , test and deca cycle would still add size to me

 

[ThepoolGuy]

what do you mean composition change just loss in bodyfat??

 

[boxerjake]

what do you mean composition change just loss in bodyfat??

Ya my weight stayed at 246lbs but i dropped i waist size in pants and stirated like crazy .

Every other person in my gym was asking if i was preparing for some kind of a compitition , everyone seen the changes . My weight stayed the same just changed measurements in other places .

My ab's have nver looked better ( due to the drop in BF ) ....

 

[instant.muscle]

tryin 2 make me think if i should go with deca dbol test eq or test tren dbol eq

 

[ryan04]

tren/test is the king of all cycles IMO (and many others). No other combo produces such drastic changes in physique and body composition. Screw deca.

 

[instant.muscle]

but will u bulk off of it also? or atleast put on size, deca always made my arms explode, will test/tren do the same

 

[ThepoolGuy]

arms exploding is a good thing. The areas I need work on the most are biceps and forearms. What is Deca mainly used for size or strength? Both? I hear it also lubricates your joints too?? What is that all about? Will it cause you to hold alot of water and will AIFM 2 sprays a day be enough to keep the water down?

 

[instant.muscle]

deca is good for size and strength and it does help ease joint pain, ive taken deca twice but never tren, people say u bulk more off of deca than tren but some say that is because of the bloat from deca and tren causes no bloat because it does not convert at all, after thinking about this i fugred the 5 extra pounds of water deca gives me when i'm off cycle ill just lose but with tren ill not lose any water, stay hard and look better i'm hoping 600mg test 800 eq and 35 dbol should bulk enuf lol

 

[ThepoolGuy]

bump

 

[informed09]

just to add to what everyone else has said. A close friend of mine took tren for 12 weeks( to long IMO). His transformation was unreal!! Didnt look like the same person. Stayed the same weight but lost a ton of fat and became very vascular. He has always been a heavier thick skined guy with no cuts. He took one CC every MON/WED/FRI. Good luck whatever you decide. Im thinking of adding tren to the end of my test cycle right now