Deca Sustanon Shutdown please help me please

[am i fed]

I ran a 6 week deca/sust cycle of 200 /g and 250 mg from mid november 2010 to the end of december 2010. Between the second and 3rd week of January I noticed I was "shooting blanks". Now it is feb 6th and I am no longer shootting blanks but I have NO SEX DRIVE whatsoever. Even porn can't get me up. Bc it was only 10 ccs of each I was told by my trainer I needed no pct so I took nothing. No clomid or anything. My test levels r low (119:9) and my doc also said I needed no pct and shouldnt do clomid. He said I should just let my body heal itself and let it rejuvinate my testosterone on its own and in a month or two i will be back to normal (as he says he has seen guys fully recover their test in 2 months after doing deca for up to a year!). Is he right and do you think my hormones and hpta will ever come back? This is my first and only cycle. Any advice wud be greatly appreciated. Thanks and god bless!

Also my shots were 2 ccs every 5 days alternating between substances, but I skipped my last deca shot so total 10 ccs of sust and 8 shots of deca. Also I just turned 21 and my natural test was 504.

 

[skyling35]

They will eventually come back. How long that would take normally no one can tell you for sure as it is different with everyone and some users may never fully recover naturally.

You NEED a pct to help your body get back to producing its own test faster.

 

[am i fed]

thank you man i really dont mean to sound like a dumbass but the pct is just to get it there faster right? if its going to come back it is going to with or without pct? Im just fucked because I dont have access to a pct.

 

[skyling35]

thank you man i really dont mean to sound like a dumbass but the pct is just to get it there faster right? if its going to come back it is going to with or without pct? Im just fucked because I dont have access to a pct.

If you could get the deca and test you can get pct.


Your not fucked (yet), but your time line for recovery will be much longer and there is no definite time for when or if you will be completely recovered without a pct.

 

[am i fed]

Trust me man if I cud I wud. I never 'had my hands on' the deca and sust, I did this thru a trainer that I grew close to (not in a weird way but just like an uncle) and I guess he steered me way wrong. I have no access to clomid tho but thru him and I don't trust his source obviously bc its wut got me here. That being said, how long is pct an option and can I afford to wait 2 weeks for blood test b4 I push my doc for clomid again?

 

[veneto82]

get some natural test boosters like tribulus or phytoserms 347 which will help, also throw in there some hcgenerate.

If not get on the test again for 8 weeks because im sure you would have lost most gains by now. Order your pct products and do it properly when you come off.

 

[am i fed]

Thanks guys so is no pct and waiting it out just not an option? Bc I don't have access to gear right now.

 

[stevesmi]

okay first of all calm down. you made a mistake and you had no business running deca as a first cycle at your age. and I think you realize the mistake you made. next time have a PCT on hand before you touch AAS. let that personal trainer know that I said he is a buffoon and gives all PT's a bad name.

btw I have run 2 deca cycles and recovered so listen up and listen close.

first off I will give you some background on deca. it takes FIVE weeks for the esthers to clear the body. it takes 3 weeks for sustanon to clear the body. so if you ran deca for 6 weeks, its gonna be in your body 11 weeks. sustanon would be in for 9 weeks. between week 9 and week 11 is when you are gonna experience those pee-pee issues. cuz your sustanon is gone and your running on deca alone now. get it? now you understand why you are feeling the way you are. and after week 11 once deca clears your body is suppressed and not producing its own testosterone. however at 119 you are creating testosterone, but at a very low rate so there is hope.

yes you will eventually recover, but expect to lose a lot of gains during this time with no PCT and it will take longer.

this is the PCT I would recommend for you to do. start it ASAP.

run HCG 1000Iu's 2-3X per week first for 3 weeks, run HMG 75iu's 2X EOD at the end of that 3 weeks, then run a LOW dose SERM of your choice ED for 3 weeks. then wait 3 weeks and go back and do another blood test. if your test levels are still low then run a 2nd PCT. get this stuff off rxhealthdrugs which is the board sponsor and they are A+, i use them all the time. you will notice your nuts are growing back during this PCT and that will be evidence that your little guys are coming back.

I ran this PCT after my last deca cycle but it was 10 weeks and I ran heavier doses. and I am 10 years older then you. so if i can recover you can as well. i was 98, then 119, then I jumped to 350 and was on my way to recovery. it just takes time with deca. I wouldn't mess with AAS for atleast 6 months after a deca cycle. allow your HPTA to come back.. deca is no joke.. awesome stuff but it shuts down your HPTA for a while.. it is a myth that deca shuts it down any harder then any other AAS, its just that it shuts it down LONGER. those esthers are pesky

in conclusion if you care about the way your pecker works then you might consider steering clear of tren and deca or you better make sure you have a very understanding gf/wife.

 

[am i fed]

Dude u r a saint. I am now at 7 weeks out of deca and 6 out of sust, but my testes r back to full size, that being said r u absolutely positive I need a pct and if I didn't wud I not be able to recover? I just don't know how I wud get it bc my parents get our mail and I wud have to pay with my moms paypal. So do u see any possible recovery with no pct?

 

[stevesmi]

Dude u r a saint. I am now at 7 weeks out of deca and 6 out of sust, but my testes r back to full size, that being said r u absolutely positive I need a pct and if I didn't wud I not be able to recover? I just don't know how I wud get it bc my parents get our mail and I wud have to pay with my moms paypal. So do u see any possible recovery with no pct?

like i said above yes you will eventually recover. it was not a long cycle and the body is beautiful in that it will eventually go into equilibrium. had you been on for a full year or something crazy then i would not be optimistic.

however PCT would allow you to keep most of those gains.. deca gains are slow and solid and keepable IF you run a good PCT and keep working out after. and PCT would allow a quicker recovery. hcg works very quickly to help stimulate your little guys .. its a fertility drug for a reason.

with no PCT its gonna take much longer to recover and your gains will likely evaporate since your test levels are so low.. expect a sharp drop in strength