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deca + sustanaon + dbol stack no gains!!

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Hey guys im 21 and been training just over a year. Decided to finally man up and do a lean bulk cycle. I frontloaded the cycle with a gram of sust 250 . Then ran deca after that at 600 mg a week. I also every week, changed from sust to deca. (just to keep the body guessing and blood levels fired up) which apparently makes you very vascular. It did for me anyway. I have been on for 12 weeks now and start pct next week. Im gonna use dbol for pct as I heard u can bridge this until test comes back naturally and allows you to keep all your gains. Only problem is I havent really had any gains?!?! Maybe 5 or 10 lbs max. Not sure wether the gear was legit or not. Must have been fake which has pissed me off as I spent all my savings on it !. Only thing is I was injecting into fat about 70% of the time cos it hurt like hell going into the glute muscle lol !!! I heard this can potentially inhibit gains?Other than that my training and diet were pretty spot on. Training Mon: biceps, Wed: chest and shoulders, Fri: forearms (lagging alot so dedicated an hour to them). Im a marathon runner so run alot on my off days. Diet consisted mainly of fruit and salads. Not a big meat eater as my mum is a vegan, so had lots of celery, tomatoes, and broccoli and drank soy milk before bed to stop catabolism. Apparently broccoli can actually lower estrogen! Who knew ay !? So overall everything has gone smooth except for the poor gains :-( didnt really have any side effects except felt a bit depressed and my balls looked like marbles haha. So if anyone more experienced than me can give some advice on how to get better gains next cycle then I would be very grateful.

Thanks , and keep lifting!
Lewis

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Hey guys im 21 and been training just over a year. Decided to finally man up and do a lean bulk cycle. I frontloaded the cycle with a gram of sust 250 . Then ran deca after that at 600 mg a week. I also every week, changed from sust to deca. (just to keep the body guessing and blood levels fired up) which apparently makes you very vascular. It did for me anyway. I have been on for 12 weeks now and start pct next week. Im gonna use dbol for pct as I heard u can bridge this until test comes back naturally and allows you to keep all your gains. Only problem is I havent really had any gains?!?! Maybe 5 or 10 lbs max. Not sure wether the gear was legit or not. Must have been fake which has pissed me off as I spent all my savings on it !. Only thing is I was injecting into fat about 70% of the time cos it hurt like hell going into the glute muscle lol !!! I heard this can potentially inhibit gains?Other than that my training and diet were pretty spot on. Training Mon: biceps, Wed: chest and shoulders, Fri: forearms (lagging alot so dedicated an hour to them). Im a marathon runner so run alot on my off days. Diet consisted mainly of fruit and salads. Not a big meat eater as my mum is a vegan, so had lots of celery, tomatoes, and broccoli and drank soy milk before bed to stop catabolism. Apparently broccoli can actually lower estrogen! Who knew ay !? So overall everything has gone smooth except for the poor gains :-( didnt really have any side effects except felt a bit depressed and my balls looked like marbles haha. So if anyone more experienced than me can give some advice on how to get better gains next cycle then I would be very grateful.

Thanks , and keep lifting!
Lewis

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bro, this is one of the biggest disasters i have ever heard... i mean this ranks really high and i've heard a lot... you clearly had no clue what you were doing and deca as a first cycle is just terrible... your far too young to even be messing with these...alternating injection weeks? bro, fuck man.... and your pct of dbol? you are going to PERMANENTLY injure yourself... dbol is not a bridge, dbol is a steroid... your NEVER coming off... your going to do so much damage to yourself, if you already havent'.... you didn't get gains because A. you didn't run your cycle properly and B. your shit was probably not the best as it is... broccoli lowers estrogen? bro, seriously, and im trying to be as nice as i can here... you have NO BUSINESS EVER running anything again.... im not sure who or what is filling your head with the shit you have going on but what you have done is reckless and dangerous.... you need to run a proper pct and im serious when i tell you, don't ever touch steroids again.... you CANNOT RUN DBOL AS A PCT... i would assume you didn't run anything for prolactin with your deca either...
 
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Dude go some research and read read damn rules

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Oh man Doggy! Man, how I widsh you came here before you ran this cycle! Wherever you got information from ... it was all as bad as you could get!

1.You don't front load with Sustanon.
2.You don't alternate to keep the body "guessing" ... you introduce the compounds constantly to keep your levels elevated instead of spiking and dipping
3.You do not run your test at less than half the dosage of your deca
4.You do not inject the steroids Sub-Q ... you inject it IM
5.You cannot even consider using DBol as PCT as it still suppresses your HPTA
6.Ugh ... I am going to stop now.

You need to run a proper PCT NOW ... and I suggest the following for 4 weeks:

Forma-Stanzol
Combo of Unleashed and Post Cycle
HCGenerate
Clomid @ 25/12.5/12.5/12.5

If you cannot obtain any of the other thing except Clomid, you should be able to get a hold of hcg ... run that at 500iu X 2/week with Clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5 and then not TOUCH steroids until you have researched and learnt more about how this stuff works and what it does to you ... and also how to manage and partially control what the side effects are.
 
Haha A marathon runner who eats only veggies and can't gain weight. I also smell a troll...I'm with you gate.
 
You guys dont have a clue

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WTF!!!!! LOL!!!!! I don't think it is in your best interest to stick on this forum if this is going to be your attitude ... you think you know so much, then please, BY ALL means carry on and mess yourself up ... we'll probably hear from you again in a couple when you realize your hormonal system is ALL MESSED UP and you can no longer get a boner, get sexually aroused, don't even feel like shagging the hottest piece of ass around, or feel like it, but can't get it up and then notice that you are actually walking around with a pair of tits and a pair of balls.

You didn't use anything for Deca's prolactin ... you didn't use any AI ... you want to use a suppressive compound for PCT ... but, hey, we are clueless, right? :rolleyes::FRlol:
 
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