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Deca Questions for Vets

zedhed

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Looking for more or less a sampling of yous guys thoughts on this. I am currently running 500mgs/week (1.25mgs 2x/week Test Cyp 200) of Test Cyp and about to come off but not like most of you come off a cycle. I am on HRT so me coming off would actually be just reducing my dose from 500mgs/week to 250mgs/week.

Now I am wondering how the addition of some Deca would add up? I got the idea from Steriod Profiles. (following)

"Additionally one may choose to continue Deca for a number of few weeks after the androgen has been stopped. This will hopefully harden up some of the bloat produced by the androgen, giving a more quality appearance. Remember that endogenous testosterone production will not resume during Deca therapy, and ancillaries are likewise still needed."

This may not be the best time for me to do this because I am now just starting to see sides from the Test, light acne on back and chest, mildly diminished sex drive. I am taking 0.05mg of Anastrazol EOD.

The dose of Deca that I am considering would be 150-200mgs/week. I am not really looking at the Deca for any size gains at all. But I am wanting the soft tissue benefits from it, and after that anything else it might do is fine.
Also would like to know what you all use for Deca sides and if at that low a dose sides are even typical.

So bros your thoughts please and best regards all.
 
The Deca wont really down-regulate the HPTA that much. Deca is a progestin.
So some itchiness of nipples is possible(correct me if I am wrong!). I would suggest low-dose deca, for joints....also realize that estrogen will increase synovial(joint) fluid as well. Best of luck!
 
Are you on real, physician-prescribed HRT or is it self-diagnosed/self-administered?

Also, how old are you?
 
mrplunkey, that would be real physician supervised and perscribed. Glad you asked tho.
 
zedhed said:
mrplunkey, that would be real physician supervised and perscribed. Glad you asked tho.
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How old are you?

If you are anywhere close to young (i.e. 35 or less), are you sure you don't want to make one more run at getting your own production restarted? Committing yourself to the needle for life may seem like a good idea now, but it could something you regret 25 years from now.

If you're permanently shut down for sure, or older, or a professional bodybuilder, then obviously long-term continuous use is in your future.

I've only cycled Deca once and it was 250mg/week test & 400 mg/week deca. I took 0.5mg armidex EoD to limit aromatization of test and took winstrol to limit aromatization of deca. Later into the cycle, I had some shock shedding of hair (TE) and it really freaked me out. At that point I discontinued the winny and started using dostinex. I showed absolutely zero progesterone sides for the entire 10 weeks.

My information may be old, but I was told that both winny and dostinex are effective ways to keep deca sides in check.
 
He's right..
Consider (you may have already..) the fact that using hrt is a permanent choice.. I chose to and I am on doctor prescribed HRT as well.. I just cycle "off" to what I use for hrt..
quite convinient, I must say.. But you need to ask yourself if you want to do it forever.. I do.. but I'm a crazy son of a bitch.. lol.

I've not tried Deca yet.. but I plan on it really soon..

how do you like it?
 
mrplunkey am 49 now, this is the secone Dr that has recommended HRT for me. However this one is much more knowledgeable than the first.

armaniak47, not using the Deca yet, want to learn all about it first from all of the guys that have. I am curious wouldnt the winny negate the beneficial effect of the Deca for joints? Am asking this cuz everything that I have read on here indicates that winny drys out joint fluids.
 
zedhed said:
mrplunkey am 49 now, this is the secone Dr that has recommended HRT for me. However this one is much more knowledgeable than the first.

armaniak47, not using the Deca yet, want to learn all about it first from all of the guys that have. I am curious wouldnt the winny negate the beneficial effect of the Deca for joints? Am asking this cuz everything that I have read on here indicates that winny drys out joint fluids.
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Oh hell, at 49 I'd go balls to the wall.

There are huge upsides to Deca, particularly anabolic muscle effects but also joint lubricity. I've read on these boards that you'll get joint benefits at doses as low as 150 mg/week. I personally know 400 mg/week makes your joints feel like butter.

Really the only downside are progesterone side effects and deca dick. Progesterone aromitization is kept in check by Dostinex (Cabergoline) much like Armidex keeps testosterone aromitization in check. I'm pretty sure I used to take 0.5 mg of Adex and 0.5 mg of Dostinex every other day.

Now deca dick is another thing to consider. You're supplementing with testosterone anyway, so you shouldn't have full-blown erectile dysfunction unless your mess up your armidex or dostinex doses. But it is possible that you'll go on and on and on in bed and be either difficult or even impossible to ejaculate.
 
"But it is possible that you'll go on and on and on in bed and be either difficult or even impossible to ejaculate". Yeah Ive read this elsewhere too. Why is that and what can be done about it?
 
zedhed said:
"But it is possible that you'll go on and on and on in bed and be either difficult or even impossible to ejaculate". Yeah Ive read this elsewhere too. Why is that and what can be done about it?
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My personal theory is you get hormonally crossed-up.

If you take deca alone, you'll shut your own testosterone down and lose libido and erections. Deca just makes it worse, because without dostinex it aromatizes into prolactins -- which is what you make right after you ejaculate (it's what gives you sexual "downtime" and makes you want to sleep). So not only does deca-only shut down your production -- it also signals your body that you're already done with sex.

If you take test and no anti-e's, your estrogen levels can build and you'll lose libido an erections.

But let's say you're on test and taking the right amount of anti-e's. You'll have libido and erections. Let's also say you're taking deca and dostinex, so it's keeping your prolactin down. I think (guessing here) that at some level you can have the test making your horny and the residual prolactin convincing your body that you've already reached orgasm. But again, that's just my theory.
 
Good info bros, keep it come plz.
 
abomb1 said:
The Deca wont really down-regulate the HPTA that much. Deca is a progestin.
So some itchiness of nipples is possible(correct me if I am wrong!). I would suggest low-dose deca, for joints....also realize that estrogen will increase synovial(joint) fluid as well. Best of luck!
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That is 100% false. Where did you hear this?
 
zedhed said:
Looking for more or less a sampling of yous guys thoughts on this. I am currently running 500mgs/week (1.25mgs 2x/week Test Cyp 200) of Test Cyp and about to come off but not like most of you come off a cycle. I am on HRT so me coming off would actually be just reducing my dose from 500mgs/week to 250mgs/week.

Now I am wondering how the addition of some Deca would add up? I got the idea from Steriod Profiles. (following)

"Additionally one may choose to continue Deca for a number of few weeks after the androgen has been stopped. This will hopefully harden up some of the bloat produced by the androgen, giving a more quality appearance. Remember that endogenous testosterone production will not resume during Deca therapy, and ancillaries are likewise still needed."

This may not be the best time for me to do this because I am now just starting to see sides from the Test, light acne on back and chest, mildly diminished sex drive. I am taking 0.05mg of Anastrazol EOD.

The dose of Deca that I am considering would be 150-200mgs/week. I am not really looking at the Deca for any size gains at all. But I am wanting the soft tissue benefits from it, and after that anything else it might do is fine.
Also would like to know what you all use for Deca sides and if at that low a dose sides are even typical.

So bros your thoughts please and best regards all.
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100mg a week is plenty for what you want out of it.

It's a trial and error process as far as your libido goes, use the right ancillaries and you will be fine. 12.5mg Aromasin EOD and .125mg Pramipexole ED.
 
Thanks for the post Fudgetunnel. Appreciate the info and dosages.
 
Gonna bump this up for awhile. Thanks bros.
 
Hey Fudge, why the Pramipexole? explain please and thanks bro.
 
Thanks Bro. Can you provide any resources that I can read up on it. I have taken some time to look, but all I get is how it works on Parkinsons.
 
Good info Bros, keep it coming plz.
 
:DThanks for the site Bro and thanks for the advice. If I have questions will be PMing you Fudgy
 
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