Deca Question

[Pitty]

If I am going to use DECA for an 8 week cycle. Would I be better off to stack say d-bol or Andriol to help prevent Deca Dick. I am trying to not use a test because of the test side effects, but if I have to to offset the problems with deca I can do that. This will be my first cycle.

Thanks for your time guys

P.S. Does Sustanon hurt like a bitch to inject as I have been told.

 

[jerkbox]

i would think it would better to add something with more androgen content, like a low dose of test, or proviron.

and depending on the dose of deca, deca dick might not even be an issue anyway

bump for more opinions.

 

[Pitty]

Thanks for the response. If I did add test what would you recomend ( the least harsh sides) and what would you consider a low dose for a newbie.


Thanks for the time

 

[jerkbox]

i'd probably say something like cyp or enanthate at 200mg/wk

that way you'd only be stickin yourself once a week...

how much deca are you planning on running?

 

[liftsiron]

Don't waste your money on andriol, it's worthless. IMO test has less sides than deca. I would suggest a straight test cycle at approx 500mg per week for a novice aas user. Sus 250 has a little kick to it but nothing that anyone can't handle. I would never do deca alone, i would do deca/winny or deca/test.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Don't waste your money on andriol, it's worthless. IMO test has less sides than deca. I would suggest a straight test cycle at approx 500mg per week for a novice aas user. Sus 250 has a little kick to it but nothing that anyone can't handle. I would never do deca alone, i would do deca/winny or deca/test.

I agree 100%.

 

[Pitty]

I was Planning on doing 300 to 400mg per week of the Deca. I was looking at stacking with sus but have read a few bad things about it, thats why I asked about the d-bol and andriol. I am not looking to get huge just add 15lbs of quality muscle.

I have read a couple of books about steroids but nothing beats first hand experance. So thanks for the help

The winny sugestion may be an option, on an eight week cycle what would be a good dosage. Will winny help with the Deca Dick if it is a problem. The girlfriend would be upset if I ended up with deca dick.

 

[jerkbox]

I have read a couple of books about steroids but nothing beats first hand experance. So thanks for the help

well that's good...you've done more research than most of the newbs on this board....

anyway, a lot of people on the board dislike deca, and probably wouldn't recommend for a first cycle, if at all. but, it is what I chose to do for my first. right now I am in week 5 of a 10 week cycle, using 300mg/wk of deca, and 30mg winny ED.

I am lovin the results so far, I'm up 19lbs, zero side effects thus far. Libido is fine, dick works fine. muscle hardness is awesome. my strength hasn't gone up drastically, but it has increased.

It might not be what I would do if I could do it all over again, but I can't complain so far.

 

[muscleup]

I agree 100%.

same here...I will personally NEVER touch Deca again.

 

[memnoch]

well that's good...you've done more research than most of the newbs on this board....

anyway, a lot of people on the board dislike deca, and probably wouldn't recommend for a first cycle, if at all. but, it is what I chose to do for my first. right now I am in week 5 of a 10 week cycle, using 300mg/wk of deca, and 30mg winny ED.

I am lovin the results so far, I'm up 19lbs, zero side effects thus far. Libido is fine, dick works fine. muscle hardness is awesome. my strength hasn't gone up drastically, but it has increased.

It might not be what I would do if I could do it all over again, but I can't complain so far.

I hope you don't experience the same crash in libido that I did around week 9. My stack was almost exactly like yours and I was fine till beginning of week 9. Libido is still gone. I can get wood if I try hard enough but its like I just don't even think about sex even when pussy is right in front of me. I haven't beat off in about 5 weeks now, don't even get the urge

Pitty--- I suggest you go with test, if you insist on deca then try to go with phenylprop if you can get it and don't mind doing frequent injections. Def add test with it though.

 

[jerkbox]

I hope you don't experience the same crash in libido that I did around week 9. My stack was almost exactly like yours and I was fine till beginning of week 9. Libido is still gone. I can get wood if I try hard enough but its like I just don't even think about sex even when pussy is right in front of me. I haven't beat off in about 5 weeks now, don't even get the urge

i'm keeping my fingers crossed....that and an arsenal of chemicals and herbs.....

 

[e2]

What's with all the deca bashing in this thread??? Has 2thick changed everyones mind???

Deca is one of the best drugs you can take. Now Pitty you being an obvious newbie to cycles i wouldn't recommend such a high dose. Typically I'd throw in twice as much test mg/mg as deca in a cycle to prevent the side effects by deca supressing your hpta. But seeing as you're new , 800mg of test, may be too much for you. I'd give a go at 500mg test a week and 300mg of deca a week.

 

[Pitty]

Hey Guys thanks so much for the information. Like I said before nothing helps like first hand experence. The two books I read were Sterids 101 and Chemical Muscle enhancement. Both of these books say Deca has less side effects than test, that is the main reason I was leaning tword the Deca.

I know it is subjective but what Test or other steroid(S) would you recomend to a newbie. Least amout of side effects would be important. Again not looking to get huge just add about 15lbs of quality muscle.

By the way I am 6' about 190lbs and 37 years old.

Guys again thanks it is appreciated.

 

[AleaveR]

Im actually in the middle of the fourth week of my first cycle. I am running US pharm grade CYP @ 250mg and Deca @ 200mg every week for 12 weeks, I frontloaded the test for the first two weeks though.

I gotta say that I am loving the results! I started of the cycle at a pretty high body fat and I have been doing cardio and eating clean so I thought I would lose weight. I have actually put on about 9lbs and my waist has gone down 1.5 inches.

When I started the cycle I was doing preacher curls with a 25lb plate on each side for about 10, yesterday I did them with a 45lb plate for 7. My bench has also gone up 55lbs in 4.5 weeks. The best part about this is that I just started feeling the cycle "kick in" and I still have about 8 more weeks left!

 

[memnoch]

Im actually in the middle of the fourth week of my first cycle. I am running US pharm grade CYP @ 250mg and Deca @ 200mg every week for 12 weeks, I frontloaded the test for the first two weeks though.

I gotta say that I am loving the results! I started of the cycle at a pretty high body fat and I have been doing cardio and eating clean so I thought I would lose weight. I have actually put on about 9lbs and my waist has gone down 1.5 inches.

When I started the cycle I was doing preacher curls with a 25lb plate on each side for about 10, yesterday I did them with a 45lb plate for 7. My bench has also gone up 55lbs in 4.5 weeks. The best part about this is that I just started feeling the cycle "kick in" and I still have about 8 more weeks left!

Congrats bro, glad to see that cycle is going well for you. The coming weeks are going to be awesome if you stay disciplined

 

[Paulos]

same here...I will personally NEVER touch Deca again.

Indeed.