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Deca or Dbol

peteefs

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Starting new bulking course next week. Still undecided as to what to use.

Test Enanthate 500mg per week
and either

40mg Dbol
or
200mg deca per week

I know some people have responded to a previous thread, suggesting test and deca no d-bol, and i thank them for there input. But my training partner uses d-bol, his strength has gone mental, slight bloating but not to bad. He is on Test Cypionate 500mg and 50mg Dbol

Any suggestions welcome.

This is my 3rd course (first bulk, then cutting). Diet and training in hand, already planned out.
 
It's all preference.. With that being said you may need more ancillaries with the use of deca as opposed to dbol.. But i have no experience with deca...
 
peteefs said:
Starting new bulking course next week. Still undecided as to what to use.

Test Enanthate 500mg per week
and either

40mg Dbol
or
200mg deca per week

I know some people have responded to a previous thread, suggesting test and deca no d-bol, and i thank them for there input. But my training partner uses d-bol, his strength has gone mental, slight bloating but not to bad. He is on Test Cypionate 500mg and 50mg Dbol

Any suggestions welcome.

This is my 3rd course (first bulk, then cutting). Diet and training in hand, already planned out.


200mg deca is a pretty low dose, but if you've never done it before, could be fine for you. You could always go with all 3, since the dbol will only be for the first 4 weeks, before the deca or test really kicks in. Most of the dbol gain will be water, but the strength increase is a nice way to kick-start the cycle, and then the test and deca will solidify the gains over the rest of your cycle. How long are you planning on running the test? With the deca, you will also need something like cabaser on hand in case of progestin related gyno.
 
peteefs said:
Starting new bulking course next week. Still undecided as to what to use.

Test Enanthate 500mg per week
and either

40mg Dbol
or
200mg deca per week

I know some people have responded to a previous thread, suggesting test and deca no d-bol, and i thank them for there input. But my training partner uses d-bol, his strength has gone mental, slight bloating but not to bad. He is on Test Cypionate 500mg and 50mg Dbol
Any suggestions welcome.



This is my 3rd course (first bulk, then cutting). Diet and training in hand, already planned out.

why dont you say what you mean

peteefs said:
Starting new bulking course next week. Still undecided as to what to use.

Test Enanthate 500mg per week
and either

40mg Dbol
or
200mg deca per week

I know some people have responded to a previous thread, suggesting test and deca no d-bol, so fuck you im gonna use test and dbol. if you dont like it dont post on this because im really not lookin for opinions except those that support what ive already decided to do.
only tes/dbol suggestions welcome

This is my 3rd course (first bulk, then cutting). Diet and training in hand, already planned out.
 
acneman, your a funny guy. all i am trying to do is get as my different angels on the subject as possible. So many people suggest different things.

Test enathate weeks 1-10 500mg per week
Deca weeks 1-7 200mg per week
Dbol weeks 1-4 40mg (20mg morning, 10 lunch time and 10mg early evening)

I have HGC, clomid, Noladex and proviron in my collection.
How does this look?
More deca, longer deca use?
More dbol?

Thanks again
 
If i went for all three how do the doses and time period look?
Should i go for higher mg of deca, maybe 400mg?

400mg + 500mg + dbol thats a lot of gear.
 
jnevin said:

Any amount of Deca shuts me down HARD. My last cycle with Deca was 400mg/week stacked with Test E. It killed my sex drive and gave me a serious case of Deca dick. I kicked the dose of Test E to 1 gram per week and added Dostinex, but it still just wasn't the same. I ended up dropping the Deca and staying on a high dose of Test E and supplemented Cialis, as needed.
 
20ss02 said:
Any amount of Deca shuts me down HARD. My last cycle with Deca was 400mg/week stacked with Test E. It killed my sex drive and gave me a serious case of Deca dick. I kicked the dose of Test E to 1 gram per week and added Dostinex, but it still just wasn't the same. I ended up dropping the Deca and staying on a high dose of Test E and supplemented Cialis, as needed.


That sucks. Just no desire whatsoever?
 
jnevin said:
That sucks. Just no desire whatsoever?

It was strange......the desire was there, but not as much as when I'm not using AS. I have a very strong natural drive, and Deca supressed that. Sometimes my dick wouldn't work at all, and you can't shoot pool with a rope :)
 
Wow ok, now im thinking my girlfriend will go mental if the OLD BOY stops working. i have heard of this before but never direct from the person. Every course before i have been fine but never used deca.

Ok another option, how about
weeks 1-4 50mg dbol
weeks 1-5 750mg Test enathate
Weeks 6-11 500mg Enathate

NO deca. How does that sound?
 
peteefs said:
Wow ok, now im thinking my girlfriend will go mental if the OLD BOY stops working. i have heard of this before but never direct from the person. Every course before i have been fine but never used deca.

Ok another option, how about
weeks 1-4 50mg dbol
weeks 1-5 750mg Test enathate
Weeks 6-11 500mg Enathate

NO deca. How does that sound?

Instead of Deca, why not run EQ? Never used it myself, but I'm going to give it try shot this winter :)
 
Almost all of my boys who've run deca in the past have gotten dead deca dick. But i have to add that the ratio's they used prolly weren't th best. It's my understanding that u always want more test to deca.
 
karachi183 said:
Almost all of my boys who've run deca in the past have gotten dead deca dick. But i have to add that the ratio's they used prolly weren't th best. It's my understanding that u always want more test to deca.
2 to 1 worked for me
only side was difficulty completing the act
took a long time
but desire and ability were not effected
 
acneman said:
2 to 1 worked for me
only side was difficulty completing the act
took a long time
but desire and ability were not effected

Lucky for u dude.. I know guys that ended up in happy ending places and had to pay for time without completion.. That would kill me :worried:
 
karachi183 said:
Lucky for u dude.. I know guys that ended up in happy ending places and had to pay for time without completion.. That would kill me :worried:
lucky for the wife
she asked me recently when i was doin deca again.
it took me like 10 times as long to finish
i didnt time it but by my calculations thats 5 minutes of little acneman action!
what more could any woman want :p
on a serious note
at the risk of bein racy
when she was finnished and assumed the position for me it still took like 30/40 min to complete
talk about overtraining
work 12 hrs
weights 1.5 hrs
sex 1 hr
no wonder i stalled
 
peteefs said:
Wow ok, now im thinking my girlfriend will go mental if the OLD BOY stops working. i have heard of this before but never direct from the person. Every course before i have been fine but never used deca.

Ok another option, how about
weeks 1-4 50mg dbol
weeks 1-5 750mg Test enathate
Weeks 6-11 500mg Enathate

NO deca. How does that sound?

If you are gonna do this, then don't taper the test to 500mg/wk, just keep it at 750mg/wk. I've done this cycle many times and liked it.

Adding deca would be ideal, but if you are concerned about sex drive then just wait until the next cycle. It should be noted again, like mentioned earlier, that deca will not effect sex drive in everybody. You kind of just have to try it out and see for your self. I do not have any problems with it as long as I have ample test in with it.

If adding it in the cycle, i'd use 400mg/wk.

BMJ
 
You need to choose between deca dick and excruciating to the point of debilitation pumps in your back and shins. Then again, you might not suffer from either.

No-one here can give you much more information. All you can do is run the gear and use your experiences to guide the next cycle.

If you run deca, consider taking something to counter prolactin. If you run dbol, consider taking something to give your liver an assist. In either case, ensure that you're on top of your AI situation.
 
I Have decieded to go with all three.

Did first shot this morning 500mg Test E, 200mg Deca, using 3 x 10mg Dbol thoughtout the day.

Praying that deca dick dose not kick in and that by the end of the month i dont look like a bloated hamster.

A real big thanks for all the advice and input, i guess i must try different things to see what works for me.

Thanks again
 
I'm not aware of prayer having been proven to be either an effective anti-prolactin nor an effective AI. We must constantly strive to try new things, though, in our quest for perfection.

Enjoy your cycle.
 
blut wump said:
I'm not aware of prayer having been proven to be either an effective anti-prolactin nor an effective AI. We must constantly strive to try new things, though, in our quest for perfection.

Enjoy your cycle.
hell ill through in my 2 cents with the big guy for ya now you got double the protection
 
One thing to keep in mind...if you sit and wait and worry that it will effect your sex drive, it probably will. Guys that stress over it waiting for it to happen usually end up having problems regardless of the compound itself causing it. It does happen to some individuals but not everybody, but you should be fine. Basically, what I am saying is, do not stress out about it unless it really does happen.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
One thing to keep in mind...if you sit and wait and worry that it will effect your sex drive, it probably will. Guys that stress over it waiting for it to happen usually end up having problems regardless of the compound itself causing it. It does happen to some individuals but not everybody, but you should be fine. Basically, what I am saying is, do not stress out about it unless it really does happen.

BMJ
very good point
 
peteefs said:
I Have decieded to go with all three.

Did first shot this morning 500mg Test E, 200mg Deca, using 3 x 10mg Dbol thoughtout the day.

Praying that deca dick dose not kick in and that by the end of the month i dont look like a bloated hamster.

A real big thanks for all the advice and input, i guess i must try different things to see what works for me.

Thanks again

curious to why you did all 500mg of test in one shot? are you not splitting up shots per week? or are you running 1g of test?

btw, i got jacked using those 3 together.....for normal people, a higher test dose helps with the deca dick.....i had to stop dbol a little early however b/c of shin, back and jaw pumps. at 40mg day. got pretty bad. i also got too strong for my tendons and kept pulling shit lifting too much weight. be careful.
 
I like Deca. It doesnt take away my sex drive but sometimes has me a little angry if I want a quicky and not a marathon. Have no problem getting a hard on either. Gains are solid as well. Run it at 200mgs and if you want bump it up to 300. It all depends on you bro.
 
blut wump said:
I'm not aware of prayer having been proven to be either an effective anti-prolactin nor an effective AI. We must constantly strive to try new things, though, in our quest for perfection.

Enjoy your cycle.

Personally I decided to forego the prayer and use Dostinex and AIFM, but if it works for him.........
 
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