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Deca for a female?
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doctor bicep
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Ive read posts from women who have used deca and grown facial hair plus their voice deepened.
Deca is pretty mild androgenically and used a lot by female bodybuilders at the competitive level. It is often stacked with winstrol and anavar.
Bill Lewellyn thinks it is the very mildest androgen.
It is , however, best to use nandrolone in a short acting ester such as phenylprop so you can bail out of a cycle if bad sides come on. Nandrolone in the deconate ester has a half life of about 7 days. Phenylporp has a half life of about 2 days.
My wife has used nandrolone phenylprop at 25 mg every other day with good results and few sides.
Testosterone at even half that dose is stronger androgenically.
RG
Bill Lewellyn thinks it is the very mildest androgen.
It is , however, best to use nandrolone in a short acting ester such as phenylprop so you can bail out of a cycle if bad sides come on. Nandrolone in the deconate ester has a half life of about 7 days. Phenylporp has a half life of about 2 days.
My wife has used nandrolone phenylprop at 25 mg every other day with good results and few sides.
Testosterone at even half that dose is stronger androgenically.
RG
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eq....
bunnymt
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Hmm. about Deca: gave good strength and muscles gains.
Also gave: facial hair growth, increased libido (if that is possible,
), deepened voice, and more texturized hair.
The strength and muscle gains, being the point of the supplement, were notably significant and did outweigh the negative side-effects.
Also gave: facial hair growth, increased libido (if that is possible,
), deepened voice, and more texturized hair.The strength and muscle gains, being the point of the supplement, were notably significant and did outweigh the negative side-effects.
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wilson6 said:
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I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains....
EQ has been 4 for 4 in terms of lean mass with very few sides....up to 40 mg per week
Cornholio said:
I always figured EQ to be just a little more androgenic than nandrolone.
I know of a top national level female competitor that uses winny, deca, anavar BUT cannot use EQ as it causes virilization problems for her.
Everyone reacts a little different to various roids though.
My wife wants to try EQ next.
RG
"I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains...."
and I can say exactly the same thing about Eq (mostly water and little gains; doses required for results got into the range that produced sides) which is why the bottom line is individual response. No one can predict how anyone one person (especially women) benefits or sides is going to respond to a particular AAS.
It is all theory until someone actually tries it, and assuming what they get really is what it is supposed to be.
W6
and I can say exactly the same thing about Eq (mostly water and little gains; doses required for results got into the range that produced sides) which is why the bottom line is individual response. No one can predict how anyone one person (especially women) benefits or sides is going to respond to a particular AAS.
It is all theory until someone actually tries it, and assuming what they get really is what it is supposed to be.
W6
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If her goal was to put on a ton of muscle, not just lose bodyfat and tone then I'd say go for it... Put her on anavar. Deca will give her sides. My first cycle was deca alone, 50mgs/week and I got all sides possible. Voice (most noticeable), clit enlargement, hair growth.... but had a 20 lb gain and held 50% of it. Wish I could have another cycle like that again. lol.
But be safe, it will give her sides, if she's very worried about her voice dont give it to her. If anything do 50 every 10 days.... but no closer. Live and learn I guess.... For me it was worth it because I wanna be massive. ha ha.
IQ
But be safe, it will give her sides, if she's very worried about her voice dont give it to her. If anything do 50 every 10 days.... but no closer. Live and learn I guess.... For me it was worth it because I wanna be massive. ha ha.
IQ
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wilson6 said:
True enough.....I know in at least one of those deca instances that it was the real deal as it was lab tested.
I agree IQ. In fact one of the women that I can think of had originally started with Eq, about 30 - 50 mg/wk, didn't get much out of it strength wise, but did hold water. She tried upping the dose (around 75 mg) but started to get sides (acne and voice).
Switched to TT ox at 5 then 10 mg/d and did far better. A little acne, but far more anabolic effects (started growing like a weed). Didn't do anything to her voice, but significantly increased libido.
Then I can think of the girl that increased her bench from 135 to 205 on 50 - 75 TT deca/wk over a several month period of time. A little acne, huge increase in sex drive to the point that is was very bothersome, but nothing else. Held some water, but also had some serious increases in strength.
Then there are those that Corn had mentioned, not much other than sides and ALOT of water on Deca.
Overall, if a female is bent on trying something, it should probably be OX or perhaps a LITTLE t-gel or short acting ester unless there are willing to accept the possibility of permanent virilizing sides (voice, clit and facial hair). Well, at least the facial hair can be lasered I suppose.
W6
Switched to TT ox at 5 then 10 mg/d and did far better. A little acne, but far more anabolic effects (started growing like a weed). Didn't do anything to her voice, but significantly increased libido.
Then I can think of the girl that increased her bench from 135 to 205 on 50 - 75 TT deca/wk over a several month period of time. A little acne, huge increase in sex drive to the point that is was very bothersome, but nothing else. Held some water, but also had some serious increases in strength.
Then there are those that Corn had mentioned, not much other than sides and ALOT of water on Deca.
Overall, if a female is bent on trying something, it should probably be OX or perhaps a LITTLE t-gel or short acting ester unless there are willing to accept the possibility of permanent virilizing sides (voice, clit and facial hair). Well, at least the facial hair can be lasered I suppose.
W6
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Wilson - it seems that women have more problems mg:mg with water retention on Deca thaN MEN....do you think it is related to the progestin altering, making it "IUD" like?
If I had to guess re: Deca and water weight in women, I would say it is prolly due to its binding like progesterone, but doesn't act 100% like progesterone. Similar deal to a lot of the progestins used in OCs. Remember that natural progesterone anatagonizes the fluid retaining activity of estrogen (via mineralocorticoid antagonism), and most progestins to not have this function. This could make Deca a competitive inhibitor of progesterone's anti- mineralocorticoid ability. Men would not notice this as much because they have much lower estrogen levels.
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makes sense from real world examples I have seen
Thanks.
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charliesway
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first cycle for female
durabolin... or deca..? my girlfriend wants to get on a cycle and we were wondering what you guys perfered for a first timer.. we were thinking a small dosage of deca with some winny and then later maybe some primo and anavar , what do you guys suggest that she does we have heard many diffrent things from diffrent people and need some advice... thanks and what is durabolin ?
durabolin... or deca..? my girlfriend wants to get on a cycle and we were wondering what you guys perfered for a first timer.. we were thinking a small dosage of deca with some winny and then later maybe some primo and anavar , what do you guys suggest that she does we have heard many diffrent things from diffrent people and need some advice... thanks and what is durabolin ?
Re: first cycle for female
ASSUMING diet and exercise are in line (for a long time), a female's first cycle is typically anavar. Low incidence of sides, good gains, in general a very safe drug when used smart. But even Anavar can have a "bad effect" on some people.
It is kinda ass-backwards to do a first cycle of deca and winny, then go back "down" to anavar. Deca and Winny are two drugs that many females find yucky (for lack of a better term). To be on the safe side, I wouldn't START a female's journey into AAS with Deca or Winny, rather go there when you know your body and AAS a little better. JMHO.
Durabolin is a shorter acting ester of nandrolone - it is Nandrolone Phenylpropinate. You get a lot of the "good" of Nandrolone Decaoanate (sp?) with a faster acting ester attached. That way, if you get some bad sides, it clears the system faster. Down sides are more frequent injections (roughly 2-3x a week for a female) and you can test positive for AAS use for about 18 months after stopping (similar to Deca).
charliesway said:
ASSUMING diet and exercise are in line (for a long time), a female's first cycle is typically anavar. Low incidence of sides, good gains, in general a very safe drug when used smart. But even Anavar can have a "bad effect" on some people.
It is kinda ass-backwards to do a first cycle of deca and winny, then go back "down" to anavar. Deca and Winny are two drugs that many females find yucky (for lack of a better term). To be on the safe side, I wouldn't START a female's journey into AAS with Deca or Winny, rather go there when you know your body and AAS a little better. JMHO.
Durabolin is a shorter acting ester of nandrolone - it is Nandrolone Phenylpropinate. You get a lot of the "good" of Nandrolone Decaoanate (sp?) with a faster acting ester attached. That way, if you get some bad sides, it clears the system faster. Down sides are more frequent injections (roughly 2-3x a week for a female) and you can test positive for AAS use for about 18 months after stopping (similar to Deca).
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