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SaleenMustang91
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well bro to tell u the truth...i wouldent even bother looking at this post again because everyone is going to rip u apart.....so i would just type in deca durbolin in google and read everything u can...if u have any other ?'s about it then ask..but the ? you asked nobody will respond to
longhorn814
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deca should not be run by itself, you need to run it with test. Do some research first bro
Stacemranger
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sal said:
You won't see a good response from your dick.
anthony518
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Add some test, just like we tell every other person who gets on here and posts without even having a clue what they are doing or talking about. PEACE
i have done some home work on deca. iv learned it is a great stack i went on www.steroid tips .com and they state for a newbie should try deca by it's self and was hoping to get some feedback instead i got alot of tuff shitanthony518 said:
liquidmuscle
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i have used deca 2 times and i have always used test too..first was sust250 ew and deca 300 ew second time was test400 and dbol 30mgs ed with deca 200mgs ew it was awesome but deca alone...i am not sure its a good idea...atleast get dostinex if you are intending on deca solo
longhorn814
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sal said:
Ok bro I'll give you a bit of credit for attempting to do some research, just b/c one website says its good for a beginner doesnt mean its true. The overwhelming majority of people on this boards and others will tell you to do test only as a first cycle or that you need to do deca with test. Deca alone will shut down your natural test production within a couple of weeks. Spend some time on here doing some research and you'll quickly see why we recommend this. Also do a search for PCT thats just as important as taking gear correctly. BTW deca alone isnt a stack. A stack involves more than one compound
triplesixmaf
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sal said:
doubt it
triplesixmaf
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sal said:
add some d bol and some test
well if you have a great diet and exercise like a madman, then yeah you will see great results.. but dont expect to gain 25lbs of rock hard muscle. yes deca by itself will shut you down hard. hell, if you take deca with test, it still can shut you down hard(personal experience that i dont want to remember) what are you trying to accomplish with this cycle?
longhorn814
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is there any particular reason why you dont want to use test?
longhorn814
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sal said:
First off, deca isnt an oral, secondly oral cycles are not very good. Most likely you wont keep most of the gains off an all oral cycle. Orals tend to be a bit harsher in terms of sides than most injectables (there are a few exceptions to this). For your first cycle, just do test e or cyp at 400-500 mg/wk for 10-12 weeks w/ proper PCT. You could use dbol the first four weeks to kick off your cycle until the test kicks in, just make sure you have nolva on hand for gyno too. You only have to inject twice a week on this. Dont be afraid of the needle, its your friend
longhorn814
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longhorn814 said:
See my previous post!! Test e is fine to run alone. Remember test is actually produced in your body
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Phaded
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iknow of some peeps who've done deca only formany cycles and seen no prob. with their soldier saluting
I WAS ON WWW.STEROIDTIPS.COM ASLO WWW.LIFT FOR LIFE AND BOTH STATED THAT TAKING DECA DURABOLIN SOLO FOR A FIRST TIMER WILL SEE A GOOD GAIN APROX. 200CC A WEEK ?? AND SHOULD TAKE A TEST BOOSTER AFTER YOUR 8 WEEK CYCLE ????
I'm firm believer that a first cycle should be test only. However, I don't see any reason why someone couldn't run a deca cycle all by itself. The main reason for choosing only one compound in the beginning is to see how your body reacts to it, then use that knowledge in later cycles.
There are a lot of people (unfortunately I'm not one of them) who are not effected by deca dick. Even that can be counter acted by using throwing in some dostinex or proviron. He won't know until he tries it.
This type of cycle wouldn't be my choice, but plenty of people have made great gains from deca alone cycles.
There are a lot of people (unfortunately I'm not one of them) who are not effected by deca dick. Even that can be counter acted by using throwing in some dostinex or proviron. He won't know until he tries it.
This type of cycle wouldn't be my choice, but plenty of people have made great gains from deca alone cycles.
longhorn814
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sal said:
Dude, turn off the caps lock!!! There are many better sites out there, besides the ones you listed, Here are some good reads
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=70741
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=1870
http://forum.mesomorphosis.com/showthread.php?t=26
I could post more, but if you dont get the idea after some of these reads, i guess you never will
longhorn814 said:
Sorry bro, but I completely disagree with this statement.
Orals like anavar and winstrol are known for their keepable gains. You don't
gain a ton, but what you do gain is typically lean muscle. Even orals like dbol and anadrol will produce lean muscle gains. If you keep the water retention down with adex or something along those lines, I don't see any reason why you couldn't keep a good portion of those gains.
Lean muscle is lean muscle. It doesn't go away in a matter of days like water retention.
BTW, I've never used drol, so I'm only specualating with that one.
Napolean_dynamite
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use the search button bro. musch more usefull.
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Phaded
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can you say idiot
longhorn814
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sal said:
yeah its called test!!!!
longhorn814
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Apexx said:
I'll agree with you that var and winny produce easily keepable gains and you can probably keep somes gains from dbol or drol, but I think that would require excellent PCT diet and training. I dont think a newbie would be able to keep gains off just an all oral cycle compared to someone more experienced b/c they have no PCT experience. If you know how to eat and train during PCT and how your body behaves, you might be able to keep some of the gains. I'd bet that this guy doesnt know what PCT is yet either.
peace
maxpayne72
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Gotta love it when you ask for help and get a bunch of crap. Honestly, 95% of what is said on these boards is words for words regurgitation of posts on other boards, and articles. The real use of them is the new 5%. So some guys flame people who ask the same questions. BUT - Truth be told, EVERYONES experences are different, so I VERY much support asking the same question, as long as people share new ideas. Hell knows my body does not react at all like the cookie cutter recipe says.
Even if your gains are reduced, Deca, inmho is probably a SAFE first cycle. Or... you can through in the test, get gyno, get acne, fuck your cholesterol, get rages, and a million other things. It probably has the least amount of side effects. People don't like it, because it stays in your body for a VERY long time. It's detectable for ( I may be wrong here ) up to 18 months. So if you are a pro-athlete and get tested, beware.
Also, it is a poor androgen. What does that mean? All AS, generally cause your body to slow down natural testosterone production. However, if you are injecting testosterone in, well, it kind of takes care of that problem. i.e. "add back therapy".
So deca only: low natural testosterone... = side effects. time
deca + test: low naural test+injected test = enough test to sustain normal male functions.
But here's the clencher, either way, as soon as you stop taking roids.... your natural levels will take time to recover, and you won't be injecting any more "replacement" test. So EITHER WAY you will need to do some post cycle therapy to kick your testosterone production back in.
I think it's better to wade in, even if you gain 5, not 15 pounds, or even if you don't keep any of them.
And you are better to wade in, with a SHORT deca cycle.
See how your body reacts to it.
But honestly, the point of a lot of these guys. DO SOME READING READ THE BASICS. Otherwise you are going to cause yourself a lot of regret.
Even if your gains are reduced, Deca, inmho is probably a SAFE first cycle. Or... you can through in the test, get gyno, get acne, fuck your cholesterol, get rages, and a million other things. It probably has the least amount of side effects. People don't like it, because it stays in your body for a VERY long time. It's detectable for ( I may be wrong here ) up to 18 months. So if you are a pro-athlete and get tested, beware.
Also, it is a poor androgen. What does that mean? All AS, generally cause your body to slow down natural testosterone production. However, if you are injecting testosterone in, well, it kind of takes care of that problem. i.e. "add back therapy".
So deca only: low natural testosterone... = side effects. time
deca + test: low naural test+injected test = enough test to sustain normal male functions.
But here's the clencher, either way, as soon as you stop taking roids.... your natural levels will take time to recover, and you won't be injecting any more "replacement" test. So EITHER WAY you will need to do some post cycle therapy to kick your testosterone production back in.
I think it's better to wade in, even if you gain 5, not 15 pounds, or even if you don't keep any of them.
And you are better to wade in, with a SHORT deca cycle.
See how your body reacts to it.
But honestly, the point of a lot of these guys. DO SOME READING READ THE BASICS. Otherwise you are going to cause yourself a lot of regret.
maxpayne72
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For the "experienced" guys out there.
My logic is simple, and remember this isn't for the guy with a load of clomid, armidex, milk thistle, proscar ( = propecia ), herbals for cholesterol, and HCG, and even more important the knowledge of how his own body reacts to all this crap.
Test + deca. If you screw up, when you are off, you are on your own. No idea where your natural test levels are. i.e. he will really find out in a hurry, when the test isn't getting injected and the natural stuff isn't being produced.
For him, deca only, he will have clues as to where his test levels are, without as much of a rude awakening. i.e. they will only go up from his stopping point.
And IMHO, the post cycle, for a newbie can be EXTREMELY dangerous psychologically, and physically. When your test level are that low ... very bad things...
My logic is simple, and remember this isn't for the guy with a load of clomid, armidex, milk thistle, proscar ( = propecia ), herbals for cholesterol, and HCG, and even more important the knowledge of how his own body reacts to all this crap.
Test + deca. If you screw up, when you are off, you are on your own. No idea where your natural test levels are. i.e. he will really find out in a hurry, when the test isn't getting injected and the natural stuff isn't being produced.
For him, deca only, he will have clues as to where his test levels are, without as much of a rude awakening. i.e. they will only go up from his stopping point.
And IMHO, the post cycle, for a newbie can be EXTREMELY dangerous psychologically, and physically. When your test level are that low ... very bad things...
maxpayne72 said:
My first cycle was Deca and Anadrol and didnt know shit about PCT.
All I had was some Proviron which I must say takes care of the Deca dick quite nicely. Anyway I gained 25 lbs. in 6 weeks and kept about 17 but the crash was terrible. I felt like shit and I was in a deep depression.
I had no idea why I felt like crap, when just a month earlier I was on top of the world.
It's sad to see how many people do the same thing I did.
Fuck listening to other people
Research and verify.
BTW I just pissed myself off
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