read the pct forum my friend, jenetic has a sticky at the top, it is unrivaled as far as info goes on that subject. he knows his shit, i had some puffy nips he prescribed adex and nolva bam gone in 10 days. test e and dbol is fine thats what sweed is doing for his first and he looks great, the difference is he knew down to the last detail everything about what he was taking and why. don't ever take anyones word on something that requires you to stick a needle in your body and take liver tablets. i love aas like i love pussy but you need to know yourself what your throwin in your bod. my advice is do test only cycle 500 a week of test e 12 weeks because it is simple. you will not get a limp dick on test bro, only some people do on deca thats why they stack with test. your call but you need to research a little more, if you don't have a book thats cool go to steroid.com or steroidtips.com just read the different profiles of each. good luck