deca and equipiose stack

[sparkant]

Hi all ,desperate for your opinions, i just started my first Proper cycle consisting of 200mg of deca (Norma Brand) and 200mg of equipiose (orion brand ) both once a week.
i sayfirst "proper cycle " as i did try dianabol but after 2 weeks and 10 lb of water along with terrible backache i discontinued use i was then advised that before i tried anything else i should raise my own levels again , so i useed hcg eod 1500iu then 3 weeks on clomid (50mg every night) my question is has enyone used this stack before and what sort of results should i expect (i didnt want to use test because of the bloat) my diet consists of 3 solid meals a day usually chicken or fish or steak with brown rice or hard brown rolls and also 1 fish oil capsule and half a palm full of peanuts these meals total about 50g protien 35 g carbs 20gm GOOD fats i also have 3 shakes as follows 2 scoops whey (50gm) and 1 scoop of waxy maize starch (about 35 gm of carbs) in total i estimate my intake to be around 3500 calories a day (about 500 above my maintenance level) i have trained consistently for the last 5 years i now weigh 12 stone 10lb and my bf is about 18% (was 12% before dianabol) i am 5ft 3 inches tall and am hoping to compete soon my arms measure 16 inches thighs 24 inches waist 30 chest 45 inches - Please note this was acheived without aas (i started at 9 stone 2lb) i have been told by other gym members that i must have good genetics but to reach my potential it would be a waist not to use aas once i can get this poxy laptop to upload photos i will get some on here (people are gonna say im Full of shit)i have dieted on a couple of occasions so i know how my body responds to different calorific intakes etc but aas is something i have only just started to research so any help would be great , i have already got 10 weeks worth of gear + pct but if you guys tell me this stack is crap i will get something else thanks in advance

 

[goal245]

200 mg of deca and 200 mg EQ per week is not a proper cycle. <-- say good buy to sex

You should do 500 testosterone with either 400 deca or 400 EQ every week.
Also your body fat is too high to bulk.

 

[sparkant]

200 mg of deca and 200 mg EQ per week is not a proper cycle. <-- say good buy to sex

You should do 500 testosterone with either 400 deca or 400 EQ every week.
Also your body fat is too high to bulk.

thanks for your input , i did forget to mention that my goal isnt to bulk up i am more interested in the slow buildup of muscle that these drugs are supposed to offer hence i have stayed away from test , another member pm me he said it was likely that the massive water gain from the dianabol fooled the bfm scales into thinking it was fat , 10lb in 2 weeks of fat would take a shitload of calories -much more than my conservative 3500 and if i was at 18 % i def wouldnt see no abs and quad seperation etc so i am assuming its water . being as i have already had 1 shot of eq and just had my second deca how would i now incorperate test and would i drop deca or equipoise i can get hold of most stuff so any suggestions would be great-thanks

 

[goal245]

Pick up some testosterone enenthate and either choose Deca or EQ. The EQ will give you less bloat. You also will want to run the test 2 weeks longer than the EQ/deca. So 12 weeks of Test and 10 weeks of EQ/or deca.

 

[sparkant]

Thanks for the info , i got 12 weeks worth of test enth in 2ml vials at 200mg per ml coming on friday so will start test then and being as i have had 2 shots of deca i will drop eq as i was gonna have my second shot today but i will skip it. i also have some nolvadex as i mentioned before i am worried about water retention /gyno , how would you incorperate this into the cycle should i use it every day or every couple of days , also the deca i have is only 200mg per vial and i have 10 left of those so my cycle remaining will be 400 test enth and 200 deca i could use 2 vials a week to give me 400 deca but that would mean an extra shot(Its only 100mg per ml and 4ml is a lot i am led to believe) - do you think it would improve things or will 200mg of deca be enough to compliment test once again thankyou for your time

 

[goal245]

Arimidex at .125 ED or EOD will help with bloating. Nolvadex will not help with bloating and you dont want to take nolvadex with deca because it will upregulate the progesterone receptor in the nipple and you could get gyno. Since you are only doing 200mg deca a week I would keep taking the nolva at 10mg ED along with .125 Arimidex ED to help with bloating and gyno.. keep the deca at 200 for 10 weeks, you will get more gains than doing 400mg for 5 weeks since thats all you have enough for.

 

[OMEGA]

oh man

You should use TEST as a Base first bro

 

[rambleon]

Apart from the bros being right about using test as a base stacking deca and eq is a bad idea simply because the role they're supposed to play in a stack is similar. With eq u get less water and will gain slower but both are slow-acting anabolics with weak androgenic proporties. If u want to stack something it should be because the chosen compounds complement each other. If what u want them to do is essentially the same u might as well go with only one of them thereby reducing the risk of sides. The idea of stacking with test is sound because the test will contribute with libido and strength apart from growth.

 

[lander2312]

Doesnt Deca help make you joint feel better....and EQ make them hurt worse?...just wondering.

 

[gstacker]

I've heard eq an deca stacked compliments each other well, If I remeber it was needto that I heard this fro
(name dropin) lol anyways it's a cycle I might try one of these days. I'd agree with running test but the dosage could be anywere from 250-1k depending jmo... Eq doesn't make ur joints hurt, hi doses of test might impact tendons an ligiments after a long time an if that's the case a maintenence dose of test 250 a week wouldn't be out of line running higher dose of eq or deca...
Anyways those are jus the thoughts running threw my head call me out on em an prove me wrong I don't care I wana hear more input in case I do run it like that in the future

 

[Loths]

Doesnt Deca help make you joint feel better....and EQ make them hurt worse?...just wondering.

DECA for Joints and INJURIES is GREAT. Sholder have healed by it.

EQ, great pumps and appetite. Never heard Joint issues with it.

EQ raise blood pressure considerably.... could be to the over abundance of red cells!...