deca alone

[mammalspod]

I too like deca. I've never had the D-dick either. I like it with EQ. Just me though.

Whiskey

That's awesome, I've never heard anyone else say that (being good with EQ). I tried it and it worked great.

 

[slat1]

I used deca with test.... gained 24 lbs.. kept 18.
Dostinex is key with Deca!
*Those gains were too much. I am more of a slow and steady guy. I don't like people to know what I'm up to. Everyone was eyeballing me then.

 

[Bruce]

just do pct with nolva and i am money

 

[shamrock11]

I am on my fourth week of deca and it's my first cycle. I have no problems other than sweating. I have no deca dick and I am horny all the dam time. Girlfriend is starting to complain. I like it. When did you guys start to see you weight gains?

 

[djgaler]

I'm in week 9 of a 10 weeker myself of deca qv 300 and loved it. I'm up about 17lbs as well. I had no sides what so ever. Getting ready for PCT....
I will start test E qv 250 in another 10 weeks to see what sides i might have with test.
DJ

 

[bw1]

That's awesome, I've never heard anyone else say that (being good with EQ). I tried it and it worked great.

Seen this article the other day, thought I'd share since it seems appropriate for this thread. By Author L. Rea

Ask Author L Rea (March 2005)
by Author L Rea


Q1: What's your idea/experience on using a low dose of eq and deca together say 300mg/EQ and 300mg/Deca?

IMHO they work fine together but I get the occasional argument "they cancel each other out and compete for the same receptor LOL!)

Thanks, and Best Regards from Shine.

A1: Only a few years ago many would have replied to this with the silly answer of "…boldenone (EQ/Equipoise) and nandrolone decanoate (deca) are the same in effect so why stack?"


Boldenone is similar to testosterone in anabolic action with only about 50% the aromatization rate (conversion to estrogens). It is only moderately androgenic yet provides a hardening effect commonly realized due to the employment of highly androgenic non-aromatizing AAS (Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids). Since boldenone increases red blood cell production an increase in vascularity is often reported as well as rapid recovery between work-sets. This is great if the red blood cell count does not reach a point of excess leading to blood clots. The result of these qualities is a highly anabolic environment with low water retention and few reported cases of gynecomastia (bitch tits). Unfortunately boldenone is a veterinary drug only.


Nandrolone is a progestin of sorts (having progesterone-like qualities) that aromatizes at about 20% the rate of testosterone. Its aromatization product is a nor-estrogen having much less estrogenic activity. It is more anabolic than testosterone and low to moderately androgenic. The result of these qualities should be a very high rate of protein synthesis (muscular growth), no female pattern fat deposits or gynecomastia, with a dry and hard look to the physique…but it doesn’t. (Huh?) Since it has progestin qualities the drug is able to interact with progesterone receptors and cause water retention and bitch tits. (But it gets worse) Additionally the progesterone effect can have an inhibitory effect upon libido (Looking semi-hard but not in a manner of speaking).


Several AAS users have reported a beneficial value to co-administration of lower dosages of both boldenone and nandrolone in comparison to high dosages of one or the other. This is due to the resulting degree of negative potential side effect cancellation: The androgenic value of boldenone seems to cancel the anti-libido effect of nandrolone and the reduction in necessary boldenone dosages decreases the excessive red blood cell production concern. The reduction in progesterone-like activity and reduced total circulating estrogens (from aromatization) also reduces the chances of winning a wet T-shirt contest and a much harder musculature.


My observations have always been that 1.5-2mg per pound of body weight each of boldenone and nandrolone weekly resulted in fewer negative side effects and better lean tissue accruement than 3-4mg per pound of body weight weekly of either alone.

By the way, the idea of canceling each other out is an oxymoron. AAS molecules do not cancel each other; they replace one another in occupying the androgen receptors on/in muscle and other cells. The period of time an AAS molecule remains in a given androgen receptor (binding time) is determined by its structure…not by what other molecules are around to piss it off. Geez!

 

[quizkid]

I love deca too, but it seems like a waste without test.

However, seems to work great for you.

good job.

 

[MJM79]

Just to throw out some interesting perspective:

PCT was a lot less common back in the 80s/90s. Cabaser was non-existant. Running deca alone was pretty common for newbie cycles (there is a reason everyone knows the name "deca"). Libido issues were fairly rare or at least not general knowledge and I never knew anyone that was affected. As a matter of fact the only reputaiton deca had was being good for the joints and easy to keep gains (this is without PCT). The only negative to using deca was for drug testing purposes as the window was so damn long (12 months+). Incidentally, dbol alone with no PCT was a bread and butter cycle for decades. Interesting how things have changed and changed to the point where many believe it impossible to have success with these drugs using them the way many others have before (not saying optimal success but an interesting perspective on how information changes with time).

very true..i like that

 

[djgaler]

Your about to start seeing the weight gains sham. Be sure your diet is in check bro.
DJ