Deca after some experienced users advice

[PEAKIN]

Well I am about to start on my first ever steroid cycle and I am just seeking some final advice before I begin.
I was initally able to get some Winstrol (stanozolol) but then I found a source for Deca concentration of 300mg/ml in a 10ml vile.
After hours of browsing the net and these forums I came to the conclusion that for what I want, Deca is the way to go.

Age: 19
Weight: 96kg (212 lbs)
Height: 185cm (6'1")

My aims with this cycle is to lose body fat, and to gain as much muscle mass and strength as possible.
I am going to inject 300mg (1ml) of Deca every week for 10 weeks. Is this a good way to be going for what I want to achieve?

I know everyone is different but with the correct diet and workout, what sort of gains should I expect to see?

I am also aware of 'Deca dick'. I have access to Sustanon250 if need be, but I will see how I go.

Any other tips or advice appreciated.

 

[goku_kakarot77]

Well I am about to start on my first ever steroid cycle and I am just seeking some final advice before I begin.
I was initally able to get some Winstrol (stanozolol) but then I found a source for Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - concentration of 300mg/ml in a 10ml vile.
After hours of browsing the net and these forums I came to the conclusion that for what I want, Deca is the way to go.

Age: 19
Weight: 96kg (212 lbs)
Height: 185cm (6'1")

My aims with this cycle is to lose body fat, and to gain as much muscle mass and strength as possible.
I am going to inject 300mg (1ml) of Deca every week for 10 weeks. Is this a good way to be going for what I want to achieve?

I know everyone is different but with the correct diet and workout, what sort of gains should I expect to see?

I am also aware of 'Deca dick'. I have access to Sustanon250 if need be, but I will see how I go.

Any other tips or advice appreciated.

you too young first of all, and for a first cycle test is the way to go, if you still decide to use gear at this age, go sustanon 500mgs per week split into two shots, dont use deca or winstrol with it, stick to test and you will grow like a weed and you need proper pct lined up, but im not telling you to take it cause your young, its your choice
just my 2c

 

[BIGBUCK$]

bro please do alot of research before you start stabbing yourself. you really have ALOT to learn. you should be able to grow alot naturally at the age alone!
by the way welcome to the board!

 

[PEAKIN]

Thanks for the replies guys and I appreciated the concerns about my age. I've been working out on and off at the gym since 15 and I feel as though im not getting any bigger. I'm just looking into this as an alternative at the moment.

This is all part of my research and I will make sure I understand pro's / con's before I do begin.

There's just so much mixed info. A lot of the deca fans are saying that the deca is the way to go, and then on the other hand I see alot of people saying don't bother with deca, just use test.

 

[rudy76]

I read somewhere that "Test to a steroid user is like mothers milk to a baby." If your experienced you can add other things but when your a baby you only need the milk.

 

[PEAKIN]

I read somewhere that "Test to a steroid user is like mothers milk to a baby." If your experienced you can add other things but when your a baby you only need the milk.

I've read about alot of people using deca at around 300-400mg a week for 8-10 weeks and having good results on their first cycle. I'm planning to use deca only for my first cycle.

I definately need to look more into a PCT.

Think i'll do some more research before I do begin but any input is appreciated, keep the replies coming.

 

[socket]

Fuck, dude you have not been researching at all.

issues in order of importance:

You are still growing, lots of natural testosterone in your body still, growth plates are not closed. If you use anabolics or more specifically androgenics now, you WILL fuck your body for life, period.

DECA, is not the way to go at all, where have you read this? certainly not on here. Dec.a alone will cause your balls to shrink, shut down your own testosterone production, and ensure you don't have an erection for the duration you are on it, and about 4 months afterwards. Still think it's a good idea?

You will grow like a weed with the correct diet and training at your age, and most probably grow better than other guys in your gym on the juice!

What you need to do is spend the next 4 or 5 years in the gym, lifting properly, get your techniques perfect, get your diet perfect, and only when you have reached your own natural limits consider drugs.

Please, stay around here, learn, read, research, etc, but don't do gear just yet, you'll regret it later in life, I promise you this.

 

[advanced-stealth]

The most anabolic substance is food. Of course you can use gear, but at age 19 change your diet and workout routine. You shouldn't have problems growing and dropping body fat under those circumstances.

 

[loganrott]

What you need to do is spend the next 4 or 5 years in the gym, lifting properly, get your techniques perfect, get your diet perfect, and only when you have reached your own natural limits consider drugs.

Please, stay around here, learn, read, research, etc, but don't do gear just yet, you'll regret it later in life, I promise you this.

You are getting some very important, sound advice here young dude. Be smart enough to heed. This is not idle chit chat. These guys are offering real and experienced advice free and to your benefit...IF YOU HEED...

 

[st8grad]

At the very least do not use deka for your first cycle. Listen to everyone's advice. You really are too young to start. If you must, because I know you will anyway, do a testosterone only cycle. 250mg per week for a maximum of 8 weeks. Then a thorough PCT. Stick to gaining as much muscle mass and strength as you can on this cycle and worry about cutting bodyfat later. You need to eat a serious amount of food. On the order of at least 4000-4500 calories per day. At least. You main focus should be on Bench, Squats, Rows, and Deads for this with smaller focus working on bi's and tri's. If you are gonna do it, get your compound lifts up and heavy first and then worry about developing the muscles that are the size of an orange. Make sure you have an anti-estrogen on hand in case of gynecomastia. Food, sleep, and training are 90% of the cycle and the gear is just 10%. You won't become huge by thinking the steroids will do all the work for you.

 

[markmark]

I read somewhere that "Test to a steroid user is like mothers milk to a baby." If your experienced you can add other things but when your a baby you only need the milk.

WHAT!!!!! ^^^^ dont do any gear for now.. you can still grow with-out it.. after 8-10 years of lifting maybe than you may need to go to steroids.. watch your diet and get plenty of rest,rest and rest..

 

[jumpmaster82]

bro i know ppl been tellin u yer to young and u are. But i started to young as did most juicers. Youde be good with test and dbol bro