Debate with a friend...

[Anvile]

Well I'm kinda locked in a debate with a friend of mine and figured this would be the place to settle it.


He says that superdrol and PP are basically steroids, and that if you stacked say 30 mg of superdrol with 40 mg of PP that you pretty much have on your hands an AAS. He says that it'd probably be stronger than anavar, and only slightly weaker than dbol with less bloat.


I guess he claims him and his gym buddies add on over 25 pounds in a month with little or no bloat doing the above method.


I'm sorry but I gotta say that I'm VERY skeptical about that, and I basically told him he is full of shit.


So is he full of shit or not? Is SD and PP actual AAS? I'm really confused. thanks for the help.


Also, I ordered 2 bottles of both SD and PP. I'm kinda excited... although I'm not as optimistic as my friend.

 

[Extra_Strong]

what is PP ?

 

[Extra_Strong]

pheraplex k found it

 

[AX_Ryan]

Both have been discontinued by Anabolic Xtreme. Please read all of the stickies in this forum before you start your cycle.

 

[Anvile]

Both have been discontinued by Anabolic Xtreme. Please read all of the stickies in this forum before you start your cycle.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. Thats why I just ordered a shitload of both. (Might as well get it while I can.)


However the question of the thread wasnt answered. Steroid... or no?

 

[DBBT]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. Thats why I just ordered a shitload of both. (Might as well get it while I can.)


However the question of the thread wasnt answered. Steroid... or no?

no

 

[[ViPeR]]

Yeah, I'm aware of that. Thats why I just ordered a shitload of both. (Might as well get it while I can.)


However the question of the thread wasnt answered. Steroid... or no?

Well, most debate the issue of them being Steroids or not. In my eyes there are 3 catagories of hormonal substances.

Theres...

AAS
Pro-Hormones
Pro-Steroids

Products like PP and SD, aren't straight up steroids but don't fit the profile of Pro-Hormones either. They are very similar to existing AAS, and have a bond changed here, and a methyl group added there.

They are basically a "new" steroid that gets under the radar bc no one knows about it. Chemists re engineered for that purpose and for it to also be oral. That's why they've been discontinued. Same deal happened with Pro-Hormones, except they converted to the real deal, later, once inside the body.

That is why you need PCT for these products, and that's why they are treated like AAS. Most don't need as intricate of a PCT, but since everyone is different, Nolva is always suggested.

I personally give props to AX for engineering these compounds and having them available to me.

 

[Kold_Killa]

All 40mg and 30mg stacked together is going to do is F#CK you up. Granted, I'm sure you could get bigger (not 25lbs by anymeans, unless you were eating 10k+ cal a day). In the end, it sounds as if your "buddy" made some crap up in his head and has actually come to believe himself.

 

[mm107]

All i know is i cycled PP with amazing results. 20/30/40/40 following wth PCT. I was 170lbs to begin with and last time i weighed in at 193. GRANTED, I EAT 4K CALS DAILY, (SO THE WEIGHT GAIN COULD BE ATTRIBUTED MORE TO THE FOOD I ATE, AND I ATE A CLEAN 4K CALS.)

I Dont know what a AAS cycle feels like, but i will. And when i do ill let you know how they compare to these.

But i do know is, MY gains OUTWEIGHED the SIDES by FAR. HAVE slightly high BP, i can feel my temples pumping sometimes. MINOR, AND I MEAN MINOR(could have been caused by sweating) on the chest. NO BACK OR FACE ACNE.

Vascularity is amazing on PP. I was able to see complete nervous systems in both arms basically lol

Stregnht, hmm, i did blast my bench to 225. Where i seem to be stuck. I know 225 isnt alot but i am just not that good at becnhign i guess. I do sqaut 300lbs tho.

I tried to throw in the Superdrol week 3 - 4. But my skin got tooo OILY and i new it would lead to a breakout. Also major back pumps(but this could have been fixed with taurine supplementation.

BUT I WOULDNT TAKE PP LIGHYLY. i would love to order more, but these are so close to the real deal why not just go for the real deal right?

 

[MadManiac13]

Your friend is either a Liar, Or the dumbest person on the planet. If it's True, I'd really lke to see his blood panel