Dealing with cancer

[freak daddy]

I think sometimes we all lose reality of what we have. Most of us all have our health, loves ones, wealth, and families. Sometimes life smacks you in the face though and knocks you down a few notches. My wife who is 32 is battling cancer for the 3rd time. If any one person has been kicked in the teeth it has been my beautiful wife. My wife is a wonderful soul who would give you the shirt of her back if you needed it. She would give you a hug if you were down. She would give you words of encouragement if you were low. I can't express how great my wife is. I love her more than anything in this world, and she loves me the same, if not more. It kills me to see my wife battle this, but at the same I get so much strength watching her from day to day. You don't hear her complain about the cards she has been dealt, she keeps a positive attitude, and her strength is untouched. She is incredible. My wife has defeated cancer twice and she will do it again. I'm not writing for people to feel sorry for me, this is just healing for me. All of you just remember what you have, and be thankful for what you have. Take a look in the mirror tonite and just be grateful.

 

[b fold the truth]

Keep your head up man...and let me know if I can do anything to help.

B True

 

[Bullit]

I'm very sorry to hear about your wife FD. My mom had cancer so I am familiar with what you're dealing with, and it ain't fun. Your wife must be strong to kick it on its butt twice and I'm sure she'll do it again.

Good luck to both of you. Stay strong and BEAT IT"S ASS!!!


God I hate cancer. I would love to kick the living shit out of it. Kick its balls, gouge its eyes, skewer it with a spear, shoot it with a shotgun then throw it off a fucking cliif into a cesspool.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

Been there bro! It's a tough situation You have to be thankful for every moment you have! Especially when you don't have to fight major battles of life such as your wife and you!

The best Dcup!

 

[Fonz]

I think sometimes we all lose reality of what we have. Most of us all have our health, loves ones, wealth, and families. Sometimes life smacks you in the face though and knocks you down a few notches. My wife who is 32 is battling cancer for the 3rd time. If any one person has been kicked in the teeth it has been my beautiful wife. My wife is a wonderful soul who would give you the shirt of her back if you needed it. She would give you a hug if you were down. She would give you words of encouragement if you were low. I can't express how great my wife is. I love her more than anything in this world, and she loves me the same, if not more. It kills me to see my wife battle this, but at the same I get so much strength watching her from day to day. You don't hear her complain about the cards she has been dealt, she keeps a positive attitude, and her strength is untouched. She is incredible. My wife has defeated cancer twice and she will do it again. I'm not writing for people to feel sorry for me, this is just healing for me. All of you just remember what you have, and be thankful for what you have. Take a look in the mirror tonite and just be grateful.

May I ask what type of Cancer?

Hope thats not being too intrusive.

Fonz

 

[MFMan]

You and her will be in our prayers.

 

[freak daddy]

Re: Re: Dealing with cancer

May I ask what type of Cancer?

Hope thats not being too intrusive.

Fonz

Not at all Fonz. Her first 2 cancers were ovarian. With the second cancer nearly taking her life. She had one ovary removed during her secind cancer as well. She has cervical cancer now. If you are going to have cancer this probably one of the better cancers to be diagnosed with. The problem is, her Doctor in Toronto retired in 2001, he knew she had this cancer and did'nt inform her. So when she went back to Canada to get checked out a couple of months ago they found the diagnosis in her folder. She went in today and had 5 biopsies(Sp). The big concern is that the cancer has'nt spread into any of her other organs. We will find out in a week or so what stage the cancer is in, and if it has spread.

Thank you all for the kind words.

 

[Fonz]

Re: Re: Re: Dealing with cancer

Not at all Fonz. Her first 2 cancers were ovarian. With the second cancer nearly taking her life. She had one ovary removed during her secind cancer as well. She has cervical cancer now. If you are going to have cancer this probably one of the better cancers to be diagnosed with. The problem is, her Doctor in Toronto retired in 2001, he knew she had this cancer and did'nt inform her. So when she went back to Canada to get checked out a couple of months ago they found the diagnosis in her folder. She went in today and had 5 biopsies(Sp). The big concern is that the cancer has'nt spread into any of her other organs. We will find out in a week or so what stage the cancer is in, and if it has spread.

Thank you all for the kind words.

In all types of cancer....I would recommend r-ala. No joke.
Its quite possibly one of the best cancer stopping agents you can take. It has a high probablility of stop cancer from spreading to other parts of her body.

Just do a search for NF-Kappa B and Lipoic acid.

This is just one abstract...there are many more.

1: Exp Gerontol 2002 Jan-Mar;37(2-3):401-10 Related Articles, Links


Alpha-lipoic acid modulates NF-kappaB activity in human monocytic cells by direct interaction with DNA.

Lee HA, Hughes DA.

Immunology Group, Nutrition and Consumer Science Division, Institute of Food Research, Norwich Research Park, Colney, Norwich, Norfolk NR4 7UA, UK.

The constitutive activity of the redox-sensitive transcription factor, NF-kappaB, which regulates the production of many inflammatory cytokines and adhesion molecules, appears to be up-regulated in an age-associated manner and it is thought this might contribute to the increased incidence of chronic inflammatory conditions observed with increasing age. As some antioxidants have demonstrated protective effects against rheumatoid arthritis, we are investigating the effects of vitamin E, vitamin C and alpha-lipoic acid (ALA) on NF-kappaB activity and on the expression of intracellular adhesion molecule (ICAM)-1. MonoMac6 cells (a human monocytic cell line) stimulated with tumour necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-alpha) were treated with antioxidants at physiological achievable levels and ICAM-1 mRNA levels investigated. Both vitamin E and vitamin C had no effect on ICAM-1 expression at the doses used,

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but ALA reduced the TNF-alpha-stimulated ICAM-1 expression in a dose-dependent manner, to levels observed in unstimulated cells. Alpha-lipoic acid also reduced NF-kappaB activity in these cells in a dose-dependent manner. Addition of ALA to the binding reaction of nuclear extract with DNA prior to gel-shift analysis showed that it caused inhibition at this level.


These initial results suggest that antioxidant modulation of monocyte activity might have potential benefits in inhibiting the dysregulated activity of redox-sensitive transcription factors that occurs with increasing age.

PMID: 11772527 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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NF-Kappa B de-activation basically stops the cancerous cells from
multiplying and spreading. 600-1000mgs/day r-ala is what some people use.

You should look into this as an adjunct to the therapies your wife is currently on. I sincerely think it could help her. It has done so in other people(Leukemia specially).

Fonz

 

[the nature boy]

I wish the best of luck to both of you.

My dad might have cancer (lukemia), but he's a trooper. Sounds like your wife is too.

 

[fistfullofsteel]

Sorry to read about this. I hope she gets well soon.

 

[naturally anabolic]

I know what its like

 

[Fonz]

>In all types of cancer....I would recommend r-ala

That's a *HUGE* statement dude. Can you site studies that have come to this conclusion? (preferably a link or organization). If it's above, you'll have to translate. No way i can understand that.

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Link...organization? Its called medline. They have a massiver archive of data.

Read this...and I'll explain below.

1: Leukemia 1997 Sep;11(9):1546-53 Related Articles, Links


Induction of the differentiation of HL-60 promyelocytic leukemia cells by vitamin E and other antioxidants in combination with low levels of vitamin D3: possible relationship to NF-kappaB.

Sokoloski JA, Hodnick WF, Mayne ST, Cinquina C, Kim CS, Sartorelli AC.

Department of Pharmacology, Cancer Center, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT 06520, USA.

Epidemiological studies have provided evidence that diets rich in antioxidant nutrients may reduce the risk of cancer. To evaluate the possibility that dietary phytochemicals with antioxidant potential would create an environment capable of affecting the differentiation of HL-60 leukemia cells, we measured the effects of vitamin E and other dietary antioxidants on the differentiation produced by low levels of vitamin D3 and analogs thereof. Vitamin E succinate and other antioxidant compounds (ie butylated hydroxyanisole, beta-carotene and lipoic acid) used alone had no significant effect on the differentiation of HL-60 cells; however, these agents markedly increased the differentiation produced by vitamin D3. Previous studies from this laboratory have shown that a sequence-specific antisense phosphorothioate oligonucleotide to the Rel A subunit of NF-kappaB enhanced the differentiation of HL-60 cells produced by several inducing agents. Consistent with these observations, vitamin E succinate caused a marked reduction in the nuclear content of NF-kappaB both in the presence and absence of vitamin D3.

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These findings suggest that NF-kappaB may be a factor in regulating the differentiation of myeloid leukemia cells.

The results also indicate that combinations of vitamin D3 and analogs thereof with dietary antioxidants may be useful in overcoming the differentiation block present in acute promyelocytic leukemia cells.

PMID: 9305611 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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This is just one study that shows that NF-Kappa B is an important factor in the differentiation(multiplication) of cancerous(Leukemic in this case) cells.

R-ala has been shown to be a very potent de-activator of the NF-Kappa B function.

If you do a search, you will find that many, many sites say the same thing....ALA is a potent de-activator of the NF-Kappa B function.

If you also do a search...you will find a post by me on chat detailing what supplements are beneficial for people w/ cancer and why.

Fonz

 

[TheProject]

FD...you asked that we not feel sorry for you, but I'll extend my sympathy all the same, and like everyone else said...stay strong.

 

[naturally anabolic]

r-ala been using it for a while now, hope it does what its studies show

 

[jwill3:16]

stay strong my prayers are with your family

 

[freak daddy]

Thank you all very much for your kind words, prayers, and thoughts. They mean alot to both my wife and me.

Thank you also Fonz for digging all that info up. That was great. My wife and I both appreciatte it very much.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Freak Daddy - I HAD NO IDEA!

I can still see your wedding photo in my head.. My god, but your wife is beautiful!

I don't know what to say... I am sorry. But I do understand what you mean about appreciating all that we have in our lives.

I only met you once for a brief moment in time, but I remember what an absolute sweetheart you were.

My wishes for you both are only those of friendship, caring, kindness and support - everything that your relationship already obviously encompasses.

I wish your wife a speedy recovery and all things good for you both.

 

[vixenbabe]

I did not want to open this thread....

I'm sorry,B.

Keep her spirits positive! I pray she recover's again!

 

[freak daddy]

Thank you BK.

Thank you too VB.

You know the easist thing about dealing with this is being with my wife. It get so much strength from her watching her go on like everything is normal. The hardest thing is when she leaves the country to go home to Canada, and I can't be with her. That's when it hits me. I hang on to every moment I have with her. Like I said we will beat this. We have to!!!

 

[spentagn]

I wish I could offer more than prayer FD.

 

[Milhouse]

Good luck to your wife and sorry to hear this Freak Daddy.

 

[WODIN]

My wife had Euteran Cancer freak daddy. Hang tight. I was lucky enough to see her recover.

 

[saint808]

Best of luck to you both... you never know how strong people can be until things like this happen. If you ever need me you know where to find me.

 

[biteme]

I think sometimes we all lose reality of what we have. Most of us all have our health, loves ones, wealth, and families. Sometimes life smacks you in the face though and knocks you down a few notches. My wife who is 32 is battling cancer for the 3rd time. If any one person has been kicked in the teeth it has been my beautiful wife. My wife is a wonderful soul who would give you the shirt of her back if you needed it. She would give you a hug if you were down. She would give you words of encouragement if you were low. I can't express how great my wife is. I love her more than anything in this world, and she loves me the same, if not more. It kills me to see my wife battle this, but at the same I get so much strength watching her from day to day. You don't hear her complain about the cards she has been dealt, she keeps a positive attitude, and her strength is untouched. She is incredible. My wife has defeated cancer twice and she will do it again. I'm not writing for people to feel sorry for me, this is just healing for me. All of you just remember what you have, and be thankful for what you have. Take a look in the mirror tonite and just be grateful.

Sorry man. I hope your wife kicks the cancer's ass. It's human nature to take one's health for granted.

 

[freak daddy]

Thank you all for the words of encouragement. They mean a great deal and mean a hell of alot to my wife and me.

 

[manny78]

Bro stay strong. My mom had cancer 4 times in 4 different spot and she's still alive. Science has improved a lot lately. Fonz is right, R-ALA may help a lot more than some people think...

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I really feel for you, I am in the same boat as you.

My fiancee' had cancer since she was 15, was near the brink of death, when by a miracle, they checked the donor list one last time, and they found a perfect match. She's been dealing with it since. She is now 21. It came back 2 years ago, and it was hell.

Now we went to her monthly doctor appointment, and they told us, well it's hard for me to type, they noticed a change. We really don't know what this means, but it's what happened before. We just had our bridal shower last week, our wedding is oct 18th. Now this. I don't know what to do. I can't lose her, ever. I sit here, and theres nothing I can do to fix this. I can't make it go away.

If you need to talk ever, send me a pm. I wish you and your wife the best of luck, and my prayers will be with you. I just hope all of us can beat this.

 

[rsnoble]

I dont think Sharon Osbournes bout with cancer is a good example. Not everyone has trillions of dollars laying around that can afford the one or two best doctors in the entire fucking world to hold your hand all the way thru it. Just like my mom, thanks to her asshole employer dropping her health insurance for reasons that take to much space, she was forced into being toyed around with until the situation became to serious before someone that new what they were fucking doing would see her. To late though. Now shes permanetely in a wheelchair. Plus dads on disability.
Getting back to the threads subject, I surely hope your wife gets better. As much as I bitch about mine I would be lost if something like that were to happen. Life can really suck shit sometimes.

 

[freak daddy]

I'm really sorry to hear you are going thru this C3 bodybuilding. Stay strong and positive. That's all we can do. Our thoughts go out to you and your fiance.

Thanks again to all of you for the words of encouragement.

 

[got big?]

having had cancer myself I know what your wife is going through, I wish her well and hope this is the last time for her.

 

[The Shadow]

I think sometimes we all lose reality of what we have. Most of us all have our health, loves ones, wealth, and families. Sometimes life smacks you in the face though and knocks you down a few notches. My wife who is 32 is battling cancer for the 3rd time. If any one person has been kicked in the teeth it has been my beautiful wife. My wife is a wonderful soul who would give you the shirt of her back if you needed it. She would give you a hug if you were down. She would give you words of encouragement if you were low. I can't express how great my wife is. I love her more than anything in this world, and she loves me the same, if not more. It kills me to see my wife battle this, but at the same I get so much strength watching her from day to day. You don't hear her complain about the cards she has been dealt, she keeps a positive attitude, and her strength is untouched. She is incredible. My wife has defeated cancer twice and she will do it again. I'm not writing for people to feel sorry for me, this is just healing for me. All of you just remember what you have, and be thankful for what you have. Take a look in the mirror tonite and just be grateful.

pm me if you need ANYTHING.