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Deadlifts?

I've been known to pick up a few hundred pounds.
 
NO way...

Those are BAD for your back. Just do some cable rows, bar rows, and shrugs...you will be fine.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
NO way...

Those are BAD for your back. Just do some cable rows, bar rows, and shrugs...you will be fine.

B True
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WTF? are you serious? my balls are itching
 
b fold the truth said:
NO way...

Those are BAD for your back. Just do some cable rows, bar rows, and shrugs...you will be fine.

B True
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bwhahahahahahahaha


well then, whatever barbaric activity you are performing in you avatar needs to stop now. You think DLs are harmful, I can only imagine... :D

JUST SAY NO TO DEADLIFTS! brought to you by the Strong Island Lifting Council
 
every second back workout. im not a huge fan of them to be honest..i get weird twinges in my back for days, and it stuffs up what i can do on leg day
 
Paulo said:
Hmmm. I was laughing with you, not at you.


I noticed too that some peeps didn't get the joke. lol.
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lol

;)

how long did it take you to get a pic of your ass you liked? i.e. how many memory sticks did you burn through
 
I like deadlifts but find them a little dangerous. I'm 6'4 and find they really do a number on my back if i try and go really heavy. Anything passed 3.5 plates and I'll be hurting for days.

I had to give them up :(
 
guards said:
I like deadlifts but find them a little dangerous. I'm 6'4 and find they really do a number on my back if i try and go really heavy. Anything passed 3.5 plates and I'll be hurting for days.

I had to give them up :(
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Then how do you keep your bum looking so sexy? All the newbs rave about it, you must be doing something right. ;)
 
Bulldog_10 said:
Then how do you keep your bum looking so sexy? All the newbs rave about it, you must be doing something right. ;)
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i think it just has this naturally sexy shape to it;)
 
I love to Deadlift.

My favorite exercise to be honest. I hope to pull mid 7's again this year. Just have to have a healthy hamstring.

B True
 
That's more like it. I thought someone had taken over your account and was posting gibberish B Fold.

I'm currently doing light deads every week. I finally started doing them nearly 2 years after my car accidents. I'll save the heavy every-other-week work for after summer.
 
As far as i'm concerned, chins, freewieght tbar rows, bb rows, and hypers can build a great back.

No deads for me....I think im re-iterating myself here lol.
 
string_bean00 said:
My favorite exercise. I can only do 345 for 1RM right now though. Maybe more if I used some straps...my forearms are weak.
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Forearms have little to do with grip strength.

B True
 
i do everything hardcore. i deadlift buses. i do powerlifting because that's how much i love lifting. i am all natural too, i don't even take vitamins. i make a lot of money, infact i make so much money i burn money in my fireplace just for the heck of hit, and i have a big dick. i also have perfect the face and body but i don't do it to get women. i do it just for me. i also have an IQ well above 200. o yeah, everybody likes me because i'm mr. personality. i'm so perfect that i have to make small errors because i don't want to get anybody suspicious and figure out that i'm godly and i'm going to live forever and the world revolves around me.
 
yes, although my lower back is starting to dominate my upper back/lats and that doesn't look good........may have to back off and let my upper back catch up othwerwise my torso will look like a tree with no branches.
 
Bran987 said:
tell us more!!
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About what?

The forearms do not control the strength of the grip...therefore having a stronger forearm would not ade you very much at all in being able to deadlift more without straps.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
About what?

The forearms do not control the strength of the grip...therefore having a stronger forearm would not ade you very much at all in being able to deadlift more without straps.

B True
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So what muscles constitute grip strength? The ones in your hands? This is new to me.
 
string_bean00 said:
So what muscles constitute grip strength? The ones in your hands? This is new to me.
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I don't know what B-fold is talking about. It's the forearm muscles...Flexor policus longus, flexor digitorum superficialis and flexor digitorum profundus mostly.

The lumbricals and interossei contribute a little bit...but not much.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
I don't know what B-fold is talking about. It's the forearm muscles...Flexor policus longus, flexor digitorum superficialis and flexor digitorum profundus mostly.

The lumbricals and interossei contribute a little bit...but not much.
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Can you explain to me how those muscles improve grip strength?

Seriously...

If you want a strong grip...you need to train for hand strength...not forearm strength.

B True
 
Ever tried pressing on the underside of your forearm REALLY HARD with the thumb from your other hand? Watch what your fingers do.
 
You can do wrist curls all day if you want...it is NOT going to build a strong grip.

Not that I know anything about having a strong grip or anything...

Holding a Mini-Cooper in each hand for near 25 seconds:
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880 easily and without straps from 18"
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325 lbs in each hand
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705.5 x 1 Raw deadlift
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I don't train my forearm muscles with extensions and wrist curls...I DO do lots of hand grip work.

B True
 
Iron for life said:
No one said wrist curls is the only way to train forearms.
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I didn't either.

I said that forearm strength has very little to do with grip strength.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
I didn't either.

I said that forearm strength has very little to do with grip strength.

B True
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There are different muscles in the forearm bro...some work across the wrist (flexor carpi radialis, flexor carpi ulnaris, extensor carpi radialis Longus and brevis, extensor carpi ulnaris, etc...). All those ones do is flex and extend the wrist.

Other muscles that begin on the humerus flex and extend the fingers...like the ones I mentioned earlier. So muscles in the forearm most definitely determine grip strength to a large degree...and when you train grip strength, you ARE training forearms mostly. Just watch your damn forarms when you grip...I'm sure you've noticed that when you train for grip your forearms get tired, right?
 
Bulldog_10 said:
There are different muscles in the forearm bro...some work across the wrist (flexor carpi radialis, flexor carpi ulnaris, extensor carpi radialis Longus and brevis, extensor carpi ulnaris, etc...). All those ones do is flex and extend the wrist.

Other muscles that begin on the humerus flex and extend the fingers...like the ones I mentioned earlier. So muscles in the forearm most definitely determine grip strength to a large degree...and when you train grip strength, you ARE training forearms mostly. Just watch your damn forarms when you grip...I'm sure you've noticed that when you train for grip your forearms get tired, right?
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I took phys years ago...but I'm not a buff on it.

Actually...my forearms don't get very tired at all when I train my grip...because I'm training my hand and finger strength. I train my grip in the following ways:
Sunday:
Farmers Walks
Timed Thick Bar Holds

Wednesday:
CoC grippers from www.ironmind.com as well as www.smartstrength.com

Thursday:
Timed holds with weight plates for my pinch grip strength.

Strengthening the hands is not the same as strengthening the muscles in the forearms. Still...people can do all the wrist curls they want and it is NOT going to build a good grip.

B True
 
b fold the truth said:
I took phys years ago...but I'm not a buff on it.

Actually...my forearms don't get very tired at all when I train my grip...because I'm training my hand and finger strength. I train my grip in the following ways:
Sunday:
Farmers Walks
Timed Thick Bar Holds

Wednesday:
CoC grippers from www.ironmind.com as well as www.smartstrength.com

Thursday:
Timed holds with weight plates for my pinch grip strength.

Strengthening the hands is not the same as strengthening the muscles in the forearms. Still...people can do all the wrist curls they want and it is NOT going to build a good grip.

B True
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Oh man...listen to what I'm saying. You're right, wrist curls won't make your grip better, because it's training different forearm muscles. It's like saying curls don't work your arms because your triceps don't get tired.

But training the muscles for grip is the same thing as training the muscles in the forearm, because the muscles that flex the fingers are in the forearm. Aside from a few intrinsic muscles (adductor pollicus longus for one) in the hand, it's mostly muscles that originate on the humeral epicondyles and have their muscle bellies in the forearms.
 
Oh man...listen to what I'm saying. You're right, wrist curls won't make your grip better, because it's training different forearm muscles. It's like saying curls don't work your arms because your triceps don't get tired.[/QUOTE]

I understand and agree. I was thinking that we were saying basically very similar things, but I get lost in the technical terms quite often.

Bulldog_10 said:
But training the muscles for grip is the same thing as training the muscles in the forearm, because the muscles that flex the fingers are in the forearm. Aside from a few intrinsic muscles (adductor pollicus longus for one) in the hand, it's mostly muscles that originate on the humeral epicondyles and have their muscle bellies in the forearms.
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The muscles that flex the fingers may be in the forearm, but it is VERY important to strengthen the tendons in the hand itself to have a strong grip. After a hard and intense grip training session...my fingers and the muscles/tendons/etc..in my hands actually hurt for a few days...not my forearms.

B True
 
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