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wnt2bBeast
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resetting wil yield greater gains
wnt2bBeast
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jcp2 said:should you really be answering a deadlifting question.
i used to know how to pull a long long time ago lol
blut wump
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I saw this article on deepsquater called "Deadlifting your Bench and Squat!". It's looking at using the deload and lift method used in deadlift for improving your bench and squat. He does mention in the article that deadlifting for reps is easier if you don't reset each time.
http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/hanna13.htm
http://www.deepsquatter.com/strength/archives/hanna13.htm
Touch and go is night and day easier. I've routinely seen guys barely grind out their initial pull from the floor and then hammer out a set of 12 (well I guess routinely is relative, not too many people deadlift but of those that do...). Some form of resetting the bar, whether it's just snugging into position again or a complete reset from standing, can be useful but by far and away the biggest difference will be in letting the weight deload back onto the ground and pulling 100% from the floor again each rep. "Dead"lift = the weight is "dead" on the ground.
blut wump
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I saw a guy in the gym yesterday in a big sumo stance, belt on and tight, all psyched up for his SLDL. He grunted the bar up and then proceeded to lower it to just below his knees and back up again for about 8 reps. It kind of equates to the three or four inch squat. Partials do have their place but then he should have been using the rack and started from his partial position.
I've just been reading up on Dimel deadlifts. They're not what this guy was doing but does anyone have experience of these? They sound kind of like a cross between a dead and a squat. Here's a brief description...
Question: What is a Dimel deadlift?
This exercise helped Matt Dimel increase his squat from the mid 800’s to over 1000 pounds in a two year period. To perform this exercise grab a barbell with an over hand grip about shoulder width apart. Pull the bar up to a standing position. At this point arch your back and get you abs tight. Keep the back as arched as possible, push the glutes out, and keep the knees slightly bent. Lower the bar by push your body weight back unto your heals while pushing your glutes out. Try to lower the barbell to a position just past the knees. At this point you should feel a tremendous stretch in the glutes and hamstrings. Raise by contracting your glutes first, at the top of the movement contract the glute as hard as possible. Perform the exercise in a ballistic fashion. You want to drop to the midpoint position and explode back to the starting position.
I've just been reading up on Dimel deadlifts. They're not what this guy was doing but does anyone have experience of these? They sound kind of like a cross between a dead and a squat. Here's a brief description...
Question: What is a Dimel deadlift?
This exercise helped Matt Dimel increase his squat from the mid 800’s to over 1000 pounds in a two year period. To perform this exercise grab a barbell with an over hand grip about shoulder width apart. Pull the bar up to a standing position. At this point arch your back and get you abs tight. Keep the back as arched as possible, push the glutes out, and keep the knees slightly bent. Lower the bar by push your body weight back unto your heals while pushing your glutes out. Try to lower the barbell to a position just past the knees. At this point you should feel a tremendous stretch in the glutes and hamstrings. Raise by contracting your glutes first, at the top of the movement contract the glute as hard as possible. Perform the exercise in a ballistic fashion. You want to drop to the midpoint position and explode back to the starting position.
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jcp2
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I don't do my dimmels sumo, but that is what it sounds like he was doing, dimmels romanians whatever you want to call them. A dimmel is just bascially a deadlift where you stop about knee levelish, and come back up fast. I know the def of Romanian is right before you feel your arch is going to break a bit, so i assume it is the same for dimmels. I don't know what you mean, by it being a combo of a squat and dead.
blut wump
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From the description I found, it kind of seems that it was saying that, from the top, you sit back into it while going down as in a deadlift eccentric. The emphasis on the sitting back just made me think more of squats than deads and then you pull rapidly upwards which is deadlift all the way. If it's used in Westside then it'd be no surprise to find it to be some squat/dl hybrid.
I thought Romanians were simply bent leg SLDL (if that makes sense). I've been doing mine as conventional deadlifts but merely stiff-legged. I can see I need to read up quite a bit more.
I thought Romanians were simply bent leg SLDL (if that makes sense). I've been doing mine as conventional deadlifts but merely stiff-legged. I can see I need to read up quite a bit more.
jcp2
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Blut Wump said:
Romanians and dimmels are pretty similar/interchangable from my understanding. When people talk about dimmels they usually do them rapidly for higer rep sets. Romanians are done with a strict arch, so when people get close to the knee their arch begins to round, you do not let the arch break at all in an romanian, therefore they usually reverse at around the knee give or take. SLDL, unless you are super flexible, cause you to flatten your arch on the way down.
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curgeo
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Dimels are done ballistically for higher reps. It's almost like you let the weight drop by itself and reverse the momentum as quickly as you can at the bottom...the only thing is at the top you snap your hips hard. It's almost like your making sweet love to the bar...LOL
The do work the glutes and hams pretty good. It's a good exercise to do after speed box squats.
The do work the glutes and hams pretty good. It's a good exercise to do after speed box squats.
Quadsweeps Sister
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curgeo said:
Ha ha...great analogy
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AlwaysOn said:
Good question & Im also curious- if your repping deads @ 60-75% of your max you deload on each rep- but if your going for doubles or triples you dont??
