DEA. Uh oh.

[fullybuilt]

Ok, lately by little brother has been using a lot of rec drugs and my dad put him in rehab. He dealt a little too, but nothig too big at all. Anyway, my dad calls me today and tells me he got a letter from the DEA saying that he has received phone calls from a tapped phone. Basically he said the law of california states that if someone's phone has been tapped, then they send a letter to people who have received calls from that # letting them know. Now, I have a feeling my dad is saying this to scare me b/c he might be suspicious that i've been ordering AAS. While he was telling me he thinks its something with my little brother, im kinda worried it may be my cell phone they tapped and since I call him all the time, thats why he received the letter. Does this make any sense, or do you think he's just trying to scare me. Plus I don't deal, and i've only ordered internationally twice and domestically around 4-5times and they were all delivered.

 

[cejeff]

unless you called-in your order this sounds like a scare tactic.

 

[bigmouth2006]

i think you have to be big time to get your phone tapped because you have rights

 

[bigmouth2006]

unless you called-in your order this sounds like a scare tactic.

yes i agree

 

[BigRupe]

Ok, lately by little brother has been using a lot of rec drugs and my dad put him in rehab. He dealt a little too, but nothig too big at all. Anyway, my dad calls me today and tells me he got a letter from the DEA saying that he has received phone calls from a tapped phone. Basically he said the law of california states that if someone's phone has been tapped, then they send a letter to people who have received calls from that # letting them know. Now, I have a feeling my dad is saying this to scare me b/c he might be suspicious that i've been ordering AAS. While he was telling me he thinks its something with my little brother, im kinda worried it may be my cell phone they tapped and since I call him all the time, thats why he received the letter. Does this make any sense, or do you think he's just trying to scare me. Plus I don't deal, and i've only ordered internationally twice and domestically around 4-5times and they were all delivered.

How would the DEA get your mobile phone number? Did you give that number to any of the places you placed an order to? if so that was DUMB!

As to the law in California I have no clue, but I HIGHLY doubt they have to notify you because I'm sure all the folks who get calls from the tapped phone will quickly zone in on who it was that called them prompting a shut down of the use of the tapped phone, BUT I could be wrong.

In any event the DEA will NOT let you receive and use AAS orders then bust you later on down the road.

Most likely scenario is they get you the minute the package is received.

I'd ask for a copy of the letter and act pissed about it.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Nonsense.. Unless you are being watched or a known seller, than I could see it being possible.

 

[mormussle]

ask to see the letter, If what you say is true, I don't think you have any worries.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I just re read the post, DEA doesnt mail letters and they dont make courteousy calls either. Its bullshit.. But they do bust down doors.

 

[BigCracker]

Your # probably showed up on some busted dealer's caller ID/phone records and they're basically warning you to quit fucking around. Or pops is just pulling some shit to make you paranoid in an effort to do the same? If you had anything to worry about, you'd already be busted-or they just wanna see if you're stupid enough to call and warn people that may have something to worry about so they can scoop up on their #'s as well. Phone taps are serious shit(well, they used to be before the Patriot Act). Normally if they get an authorized phone tap they have enough incriminating evidence to take you down for something already-they just wanna see if it pans out to be something bigger. With all of this being said, I highly doubt you have anything to worry about. You may wanna get a prepaid cell under a false name for future transactions just to be safe though.

 

[dale_gribble]

Well, if he lives in the U.S, then we pretty much know he has no rights at all and his phone might possibly be tapped. Anyhow..... I think its a scare tactic, and if you're that paranoid, dont speak about this stuff on your phone with your friends or anyone. Keep your steroid use to yourself at all times. And if you're really paranoid, then get a p.o. box under a fake name. You just have to remember that if you suspect your phone is unsafe, then never speak of anything illegal on it, and even if your phone is safe, you really sould not speak of steroid use on it anyway.

i think you have to be big time to get your phone tapped because you have rights

 

[cat_fish]

Keep your steroid use to yourself at all times. And if you're really paranoid, then get a p.o. box under a fake name. You just have to remember that if you suspect your phone is unsafe, then never speak of anything illegal on it, and even if your phone is safe, you really sould not speak of steroid use on it anyway.

Excellent advice!

 

[BigCracker]

i think you have to be big time to get your phone tapped because you have rights

The Patriot Act makes that a myth. It's supposed to be used for terrorism but the feds use it for whatever they feel like using it for. Illegal phone taps, illegal search, etc=goodbye.

 

[jagerbombme]

The Patriot Act makes that a myth. It's supposed to be used for terrorism but the feds use it for whatever they feel like using it for. Illegal phone taps, illegal search, etc=goodbye.

exactly, we have no rights anymore, thanks to the monkey in the whitehouse

 

[cat_fish]

The Patriot Act makes that a myth. It's supposed to be used for terrorism but the feds use it for whatever they feel like using it for. Illegal phone taps, illegal search, etc=goodbye.

I was going to mention something about that earlier but I didnt want you guys to think I was talking out of my ass. Anyway The Crackers right, the Patriot act gives the Feds more latitude than you can possibly imagine.

 

[holder]

Bro I dont live in CA but I did do 4yrs Fed time for drugs my phone was tapped(which is very hard even for the feds to get a warrant to do)and no one that I talked to was notified. I would not worry with it. Really you are fine...

 

[eastcoastplayer]

Well, if he lives in the U.S, then we pretty much know he has no rights at all and his phone might possibly be tapped. Anyhow..... I think its a scare tactic, and if you're that paranoid, dont speak about this stuff on your phone with your friends or anyone. Keep your steroid use to yourself at all times. And if you're really paranoid, then get a p.o. box under a fake name. You just have to remember that if you suspect your phone is unsafe, then never speak of anything illegal on it, and even if your phone is safe, you really sould not speak of steroid use on it anyway.

can you get a p o box in a fake name. usually they ask for a valid d.l. and a utility bill. at least in my state.
i think your dad is fishin to check your reaction. he hasnt got anything on you other than suspicion probably. i wouldnt make anymore of it or he may suspect even more. parents are smart like that. all that love and shit

 

[Big_Joe]

It's BS. DEA is federal and California is state. They don't talk to each other. They don't want to be buddy buddy because when they bust someone they have to share what they get. You do know that they take your house and cars and any money you have in the bank don't you?

 

[Advisor_x]

Dump All You Phones And Start Running To Mexico Or Canada.......ahhhhhhhhhhahahhhahhahahahahaa

 

[Maetenloch]

The Patriot Act makes that a myth. It's supposed to be used for terrorism but the feds use it for whatever they feel like using it for. Illegal phone taps, illegal search, etc=goodbye.

Ok, let's dial back the tin foil paranoia back to a 9.5. Evidence in a criminal case still requires a phone tap warrant issued by a judge, or it can't be used during trial. The Patriot Act now allows this warrant to apply to a person rather than to individual phone lines.

Government agencies are allowed to monitor domestic phone and internet traffic under certain conditions, but without a warrant, nothing they hear can be used against you in court.

 

[fullybuilt]

Turns out it was a letter that stated all this after an investigation was over. I guess they were watching one of my dads dental patients b/c he was bringing meth back and fourth from Mexico. I guess he just got like 15year or something, but everyone he called was notified that they were called from a tapped line.

 

[BigCracker]

Ok, let's dial back the tin foil paranoia back to a 9.5. Evidence in a criminal case still requires a phone tap warrant issued by a judge, or it can't be used during trial. The Patriot Act now allows this warrant to apply to a person rather than to individual phone lines.

Government agencies are allowed to monitor domestic phone and internet traffic under certain conditions, but without a warrant, nothing they hear can be used against you in court.

OK, since we're splitting hairs here, does this guy sound like someone that can afford a $5K+ retainer for an criminal defense attorney? And maybe another $5K-$10K if his case goes to trial? My guess is no-so before we start pretending what Matlock would do, let's just assume he could avoid a lot of potential bullshit by not discussing illegal activity on the phone. It's a lot less expensive. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

You guys are way to paranoid..

 

[BigCracker]

You guys are way to paranoid..

I've heard that before...from a guy in cell block c.

 

[Maetenloch]

OK, since we're splitting hairs here, does this guy sound like someone that can afford a $5K+ retainer for an criminal defense attorney? And maybe another $5K-$10K if his case goes to trial? My guess is no-so before we start pretending what Matlock would do, let's just assume he could avoid a lot of potential bullshit by not discussing illegal activity on the phone. It's a lot less expensive. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

This isn't splitting hairs - just a statement of fact. Contrary to a lot of Internet hyperbole, the Patriot Act didn't fundamentally alter how wire tap evidence is obtained or used in criminal cases. You're right that if you're involved in illegal activities, it's a bad idea to talk about it on the phone.
However if you're charged with a crime and the case goes to trial, even a novice public defender is going to move to suppress any wire tap evidence that was obtained without a warrant.

 

[BigCracker]

This isn't splitting hairs - just a statement of fact. Contrary to a lot of Internet hyperbole, the Patriot Act didn't fundamentally alter how wire tap evidence is obtained or used in criminal cases. You're right that if you're involved in illegal activities, it's a bad idea to talk about it on the phone.
However if you're charged with a crime and the case goes to trial, even a novice public defender is going to move to suppress any wire tap evidence that was obtained without a warrant.

Perhaps, just keep in mind the PD likely plays golf with the prosecutor every Sunday. After all, they're both on the same payroll and neither one wants to cause the other any extra grief-even at the perp's expense.

Please tell me you're not one of those guys that thinks an undercover cop needs to disclose whether or not he's affiliated with LE if you ask him. That's one of the biggest Hollywood bred crocks of shit I've ever heard.

 

[64Pilot]

LOL at Free lance gynecologist

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

I've heard that before...from a guy in cell block c.

lol..Im just getting sick of hearing all the bs and paranoia lately. People so afraid to wire money.. LISTEN UP PEOPLE: NOT ILLEGAL TO WIRE MONEY!! And no f*cking way do they know what your doing it for.. Unless its going to the middle east or terrorist country or name, nothing to worry about..

Now we have some joe schmoe that maybe gets a couple vials of test every now and then, and thinks his cell phone is tapped. THE DEA IS NOT GOING TO CALL YOU AND SAY HI, AND GIVE YOU A HEADS UP, YOUR DOOR WILL BE KICKED IN!