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there's threads started on almost all major boards... most of em start of with DEA came to my house....

WHY THE FUCK ARE PEOPLE USING CREDIT CARDS FOR STEROIDS anyway?


stupid stupid stupid....
 
PERSONALLY iam not sweating this but....... i would be if i recently orderd i was wondering how cooperative the western union people are with this i mean just cause u send money to a souce dosent mean u received illeagal steroids so i wouldnt think u could get pooped unless thay got ur puter or the gear in ur hand ? am i right? seems like rick collins needs to hire some more fitness model secretaries fo the influx of "am i busted calls" lol oh and whatever ur name is "POST THE FUKKIN NAME NAME NOW!!!
 
monster2929 said:
PERSONALLY iam not sweating this but....... i would be if i recently orderd i was wondering how cooperative the western union people are with this i mean just cause u send money to a souce dosent mean u received illeagal steroids so i wouldnt think u could get pooped unless thay got ur puter or the gear in ur hand ? am i right? seems like rick collins needs to hire some more fitness model secretaries fo the influx of "am i busted calls" lol oh and whatever ur name is "POST THE FUKKIN NAME NAME NOW!!!

It's not illegal to send money.
 
Never, Never, Never invite cops into your house...NEVER!!! Dont even talk to them, make them do their job, and get the necessary docs to get in your house. Its like never blowing when and if you ever get pulled over for a DUI...Never, Never, Never blow. I don't care if they say your license will be revoked for a year, it might, it might not be, but bottme line is that they need to do their job, without your help. Its like pulling down your pants in prison for bubba when he ask to see the tattoo on your ass, dont give em any help because your only gonna get Fah-qd in the end!!!

L8R.
 
Did you carefully read the warrant that they must have had? I wouldn't trust those wankers one bit. Go get a lawyer now and ask him.
 
needhelpfordea said:
ok, so I am in the clear?
no, they did not name a source, they said mexico and that is it.
they said if I was going to jail it would have happen there. I asked about down the road, and they said it depends on what the investigator doing this whole thing in Cali wants. I am in missorri.
Man, I am freaking out today. No criminal background, would ruin my life. I do have to go down monday morning and fill out some paperwork, I guess like a statement and stuff, no booking though.

Get an attorney before you do anything.
 
taoiron said:
You should also “clean your computer” there is some good software out there to help with that. Your computer will certainly be taken if they come back for more!!

Yeah or yank your hard drive and dump it in a bucket of muriatic acid which you can buy at Home Depot. Let it simmer in there for a few days.
 
i think we've been hood-winked here bro's...i hope not but the man posted ..got a hell of a response-the mexico busts kinda fed the fire. he had Mods and veteran bros asking and giving the nod for the source...then nothing..
i hope i'm wrong, but i'm starting to call bullshit..unless he happened to get rick collins on the phone personally and was advised to stay away from the computer...what do the bros think?!
 
lardo5150,

Man I am cofused bro.I aint tring to doubt your claims man that the DEA came to your house.But, when you changed your name to needhelpfordea whats that about?Plus bro most everybody here knows about Collins esp with your amount of post lardo5150.Maybe your under alot of stress and forgot.Anyway good luck and hopefully Rick can shed some light on this.I think most sources from here that we know are safe but if you deal independently youll have a gut instinct if it is your source.Anyway, keep training and living life whatever suppose to happen will happen.
 
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AAP said:
give Us The Name Or Die


lol.......settle down nancy.


Also......lol @ someone letting the DEA/FBI/COPS in their house without a warrant......finally LOL @ someone freaking out about 40 ML of gear getting confiscated.

Unless you're not telling the whole story, and you're a dealer, re-mailer, or money man........settle down....the DEA doesn't give a fuck about you.
 
Ask for warrant, read it outside the house without letting cops in. It will surprise you. They are only allowed to look in certiain places, like in the living room and downstairs bathroom. If they find anything else anywhere else it cannot be used as evidence. If you bother to use your rights, much less read them, you will have the upper hand and they will know it. Make thier lives as unconfortable without being impolite. If you do not understand a sentence on the warrant, ask them to explain in detail what that means.
Then, say you will not say a word, say this politely, unless they have a warrant out for you. Then say nothing untill you get legal council. Let them politely search the bathroom and under the couch and maybe the one or two other places the warrant must specify they are only legally able to look.
Ask if they have an arrest warrant for you, if yes, say nothing, smile and go. If not, politely say they must direct all of thier future questions to your legal counsil. If they have no arrest warrant, tell them politely to leave, they are no longer a welcome guests and please have a nice day.
NEXT... Clean house, prey, and if you sold a bottle or two here and there go to the mall or a pay phone a mile away and let the brothers know what's up and what to do.
 
cswole said:
Well formatting the HDD doesn't actually get rid of the info completely. It just erases the link to the information. Making it unobtainable for most people, but there are programs that will allow people to obtain this information(namely law enforcement). So the only way to truely get rid of the information is to destroy the hard drive with force, or magnetize the sumbish!. I prefer the latter, as it doesn't look as obvious, that or you could trash the old one, buy a new one, install your OS and everything, and just don't visit any steroid related sites or contact any sources etc.

Use a program called Evidence Eraser. Over writes files to the gutman securuty level, far ahead of the dod , (department of defence hardware recovery tools) and far beyond. It will literally demagnatize your hard dirve in places you tell it too, attacks the sysem Bios, Malicous boot ware. Well, I would rather have the tas of finding the last digit in pie than to get one word rcovered from evedence eraser's hard drive. No worries when the program is used right.

Anywhoo, the whole game is played with intimidation, be cautioous, polite, but make sure you put on the "not scared a bit poker face at all times) Good luck.

PK
 
guys, not sure if this occured to anyone, but if the dude wiped his hard drive, he probably doesn't have internet access now, so...he can't give any names.

:)

*resists urge to jump on soapbox about idiotic steroid laws*
 
How come there haven't been any MODS on this thread yet to cool this thing down? I am sure if you guys knew something you'd tell us.....right.
 
he must have been busted by the dea. maybe he can post from jail to let us know whats going on... lol
 
I dont think this guy is fucking with us . Im pretty sure it has to to with this recent DEA sting. Look at the facts, 2000 customer records were relased..

However, i dont think you are in toruble.
 
64Pilot said:
I dont think this guy is fucking with us . Im pretty sure it has to to with this recent DEA sting. Look at the facts, 2000 customer records were relased..

However, i dont think you are in toruble.


by who????
 
lardo5150 said:
three of them, basically knocked on the door, had a picture of me and asked to come in.

NEVER EVER let the cops in without a warrant!!!! But fact is, 99% of people are scared shitless of a badge and a gun and punk down immediately.

lardo5150 said:
I did not get arrested. They asked me questions, asked if I had anymore in the house, I gave them what I had.

Congrats, you just gave yourself felony charges. Sheeesh!! :rolleyes:

lardo5150 said:
I asked if I was giong to jail or anything they said no. They said the investigation is geared towards some supplier. they said they would be knocking on doors all day for this.
I called the guy later on cause I was so scared shitless, I asked him if he can get me any info, he said that dont sweat it, you are not going to jail.

Not YET you're not. The U.S. Attorney will decide whether or not to prosecute you. Do you actually think they knocked on doors all day long to waste their time? Not even close...the Feds do NOT fuck around. They will likely use you as a snitch, dangling the possibility of filing charges against you as leverage.

lardo5150 said:
What do you guys think, am I going to jail? He said the worst that could happen is that later on down the road I could get booked, but it probrally wont happen.

Depends on your record. But from your actions, they now have you by the balls my friend. They know you will do anything they tell you to do. Perfect canidate for an informant, which is exactly why they knocked doors of these Lab's customers. And how did they get your REAL info? I know , you dont have to tell me...used your real address to receive gear, didnt mask your real IP when online, etc. etc. etc. Hell bro, they had a picture of you, this is just the beginning of a bad ordeal for you. All you had to do was take the extra time to be SAFE! What is that saying ? Better safe than SORRY? Hmmmm.

All this could have been avoided if you just did not let them in the house. If they had something on you, they would have had a warrant.

Good luck brother, you are definitely going to need it. The DEA is NOT an agency you want to run across.
 
KidnKorner said:
Formatting the hard drive will take care of this. Unless i missed something in my computer lab, and the professor didn't know what he was talking about.



Yeah I wouldn't do this unless I followed the advice of the quote given below. If you do go because you are scared, go knowing you may very well be placed under arrest, and be prepared for it.


Bro, Do not just format the drive!!! You will need to complete what is called an DOD wipe of the drive. This is what the government uses when cleaning systems that are going to be disposed of. Do a search on the internet and find where to download. It is available to the public -- the company that I work for has used this when working on government projects
 
AAP said:
give Us The Name Or Die

Bro! I would edit this immediately...seriously.

I have personally seen a good friend charged at the FEDERAL level for threatening an informant's family on a discussion forum!!
 
This is upsetting on so many levels.

Just for fun, I googled "DEA steroids", and one of the hits that came up: 2000 ESPN Article . In 2000, the DEA didn't care about AAS use; apparently, there's a different set of political priorities driving them now.

I also wonder to what degree we're going to see some propaganda posted on this and other boards. Here's what makes me think we will.

Reading the DEA's press release, the Mexico bust was all part of the CyberCrime deal, the first wave of which focused on drugs like Vicodin. I found a couple forums where folks discussing which variety of Vicodin works best. Based on what I read there, there were a lot of people openly ordering a lot of Vicodin - one poster was using 20 Vicodin/day, so obviously that person was ordering a lot. There's not one mention of a DEA visit to an individual's house. This phase of the operation got relatively little attention from the media, and it's my impression from reading posts that most of the users just shrugged and started looking for other places to find their pain pills.

Sooner or later, the DEA is going to wise up and use the web as a source of misinformation. What better way to send the fear of god rippling through a small community than to post stories of jack-booted thugs driving fast cars waking you up with that MagLite knock? This would a great, inexpensive way to "get the message" out to a target group, and to ensure some publicity for your effort.

What really sucks is that any resources are being spent prosecuting AAS use. The DEA in many parts of the country is overwhelmed by the crystal meth problem, which is truly frightening...honestly, how many body-builders have broken into homes to steal a VCR to pay for a dose of Winnie? How many toxic labs that require special cleanup crews does AAS use generate?

Phukkin' government. No matter who you vote for, it always ends up with a politician being elected.
 
lardo5150 said:
three of them, basically knocked on the door, had a picture of me and asked to come in. I did not get arrested. They asked me questions, asked if I had anymore in the house, I gave them what I had.
I asked if I was giong to jail or anything they said no. They said the investigation is geared towards some supplier. they said they would be knocking on doors all day for this.
I called the guy later on cause I was so scared shitless, I asked him if he can get me any info, he said that dont sweat it, you are not going to jail.

What do you guys think, am I going to jail? He said the worst that could happen is that later on down the road I could get booked, but it probrally wont happen.
They may want your testimony against the source at some future time.
In worst case scenario, you may be on probation for a few months.
If you can afford a lawyer, then DEA wouldn't try to bullshit you.
Sorry man ........ shit happens.
 
To this day I am still amazed at the stupidity and ignorance of people that choose to break the law by buying/using illegal drugs. If you're gonna dabble, the least you could do is research the risks vs rewards of such behavior before you end up in a pickle.

Your 1st mistake was ever letting them in the house. I know you were scared(the feds love that too), and you want the problem to go away as quickly as possible, but by fessing up and handing over your gear you just built a case against yourself that probably wouldn't have held up in court in the 1st place w/o a warrant. In fact, if they really had a solid case against you they'd have arrested you on the spot, searched your house, miranda, etc and not wasted time by setting up a meeting with you later on. They did this on purpose to make you shit your pants for awhile (like you are now)so you'd be good and ready to cooperate and give them an admission of guilt when you show up. I know telling you this doesn't help you now, but you totally screwed yourself. If you would've denied any knowledge of having gear, the burden of proof would've been on them and whatever their case was against you would've likely been fairly weak. A court appointed public defender could've probably gotten you probation/no felony if you had just kept your mouth shut. The cops/DEA/customs are not your friends-never were-never will be. In fact they are lying pieces of shit that are only out to fuck you over big time. They play by their own set of rules and they know all the tricks on how to get some dumbass like you to fuck himself. Going to trial may take longer and cost more $$$, but it's always a better option than whatever these assholes will offer you.

Are you prepared to pay $5000 up front to a criminal lawyer to take your case? Cuz that's the going rate give or take. Also plan on spending another $5K-$10K if it goes to trial. Time to bust open the piggy bank.

Oh yeah, I believe the statuate of limitations on drug charges in the US is 7 yrs. So even if they didn't arrest you at your house, and they don't arrest you at your scheduled meeting, anytime over the next 7 yrs they could come arrest you for possession if they feel like it.

Next time you get caught doing something stupid please deny it 100%. I don't care if you get caught with a bottle of Cypionate with your name engraved on it in your pants pocket-deny! deny! deny! You have no clue how it got there no matter what-then ask for a lawyer. I don't care if the cops say you're going to prison to get assraped by Bubba for 10 years(which they will say to scare you even if it's not true) deny! deny! deny!

Welp, plan on having a good cop/bad cop at your meeting. The bad cop will make it seem as if you're going down big time. He'll yell, swear, and act erratic trying to intimidate you into cooperating. If your wussy ass doesn't break silence, bad cop will leave and in about 30 minutes later good cop will come in. He'll be polite, offer you a soda, and rip on the bad cop for being an asshole. Then once he feels he's established your trust, he'll ask you all of the same shit bad cop just asked you. He'll strongly inply that the more you squeal, the quicker your legal probs will subside-which is a total lie! The less you say the better.

I'm not even gonna touch the subject of what happens to guys that rat out their source. Think of your family. Just because you can hide doesn't mean that they can.
 
This may explain what's going on

For All to Read

Dont know if anyone has seen this yet...




DEC 15--WASHINGTON, DC –

DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy today announced the arrest of Albert Saltiel-Cohen, owner of three of the world’s largest anabolic steroid manufacturers, as part of the largest steroid enforcement operation in U.S. history. Operation Gear Grinder is a 21-month Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) investigation that targeted eight major steroid manufacturing companies, their owners, and their trafficking associates. By reviewing the sources of all seized and analyzed steroids submitted to the DEA’s forensic laboratories, DEA intelligence analysts and diversion investigators found that 82 percent of the steroids seized and analyzed are of Mexican origin. A large majority of those 82 percent seized and analyzed steroids originate from the eight companies identified in Operation Gear Grinder. These businesses conducted their sales via the Internet, and DEA estimates their combined total U.S. steroid sales are $56 million per year.

“Steroid traffickers market their product by luring young people with promises of enhanced performance and appearance,” DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy said, “but what they don’t say is the illicit use of these harmful drugs can destroy the very bodies that they are supposed to improve. Drug traffickers prey on the belief that steroids enhance ability, but steroids only rob that ability, as we have seen so often from the affected lives of too many youth and professional athletes.”

Operation Gear Grinder is part of the Virtual Enforcement Initiative, a coordinated DEA effort to target illegal Internet drug trafficking, which was launched in April with Operation Cyber Chase and continued in September with Operation CYBERx. DEA’s cyber initiative acknowledges drug traffickers are embracing the use of 21 st century technology to further spread their virus into U.S. communities.

The steroid manufacturers involved in this investigation tried to mask the true consumers of these products by marketing them as being developed and sold for use in animals. The veterinary manufacturers (“laboratorios”) took notice of the demand for anabolic steroids and created a marketing strategy tailored to the needs of the U.S. consumer – to include high-quality products and internet websites. Communications via the Internet and parcel distributions were the core of these companies’ operations. The websites showcase the products and offer an email address to exchange prices and tracking numbers, and give ordering and payment instructions.

These eight companies used U.S.-based email addresses and listed each manufacturer utilizing a business website to place their products in the hands of American consumers. Some manufacturers provided direct referrals to distributors through the Contact Us section of the websites. The steroids were smuggled into the United States, and shipped to customers. In addition, steroids from the eight companies were also shipped to U.S. traffickers, who re-sold the products to their customers. Financial transactions were primarily done via Western Union wire transfers, as well as bank transfers and credit card payments.

These groups also supplied numerous pharmacies along the U.S./Mexico border, where U.S. customers could purchase steroids and smuggle them back across the border into the United States.

In addition to the Saltiel-Cohen arrest and indictments, DEA today arrested 4 steroid trafficking suspects in San Diego and Laredo, TX. As part of Operation Gear Grinder, DEA also identified over 2,000 U.S. customers that have received steroids from the businesses indicted today. These customers consist of individual users, street-level dealers, and organized trafficking groups in dozens of cities across the country.

The Southern District of California has issued indictments charging the companies and individual defendants with the following:Title 21, U.S.C., Secs. 952, 960 and 963 - Conspiracy to Import Anabolic Steroids; Title 21, U.S.C., Secs. 846 and 841(a)(1) - Conspiracy to Distribute Anabolic Steroids; Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2; Title 18, U.S.C., Secs. 1956(h) and 1956(a)(1)(A)(I) - Conspiracy to Launder Money; Title 21, U.S.C.,Sec. 853(a), Title 18, U.S.C.,Sec. 982 and Title 21, U.S.C.,Sec. 853(p) - Criminal Forfeiture.

Manufacturing Targets

1. Companies: Quality Vet, Denkall, and Animal Power
Owners: Alberto Saltiel Cohen, Joaquin Garcia Rivas, and Javier Garcia de la Pena.
These manufacturers are significant U.S. suppliers of Nandrolone

2. Company: Laboratorios Tornel
Owner: Luis Bravo-Tornel
Manager: Mauricio Bravo-Berentsen
This manufacturer is a top U.S. supplier of Testosterone Decanoate

3. Company: Laboratorios Brovel
Owner: Arturo Bravo-Valdes
This manufacturer is a top U.S. supplier of Nandrolone Decanoate

4. Company: Pet’s Pharma
Owner: Ramon Vargas
Co-Owner-Eduardo Hernandez
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Testosterone Enanthate

5. Company: Syd Group
Owner: Armando Guzman-Armenta
Associate: Amalia Lara
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Stanozolol

6. Company: Loeffler
Officer: Jose Angel Garcia-Hinojosa
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Methandrostenolone


Operation Gear Grinder was coordinated by the DEA Special Operations Division. DEA offices in San Diego, Mexico City, Tijuana, New York, Houston, San Antonio, and Laredo, Texas participated in the investigation.

This investigation was a collaborative effort involving DEA, numerous U.S state and local law enforcement agencies, and the Mexican Federal Agency of Investigation (AFI).
__________________
 
LoneTree said:
They may want your testimony against the source at some future time..

They dont need his testimony against the Labs in the bust. They are fucked already or the DEA would have never shown up. They will certainly use him to get lower level dealers. Like I said, he will be a snitch.

LoneTree said:
worst case scenario, you may be on probation for a few months.
If you can afford a lawyer, then DEA wouldn't try to bullshit you.
Sorry man ........ shit happens.

Yup after he gives them more cases. Bro, its the DEA's job to bring cases to federal court that end up in convictions PERIOD. And they are EXPERTS at 'bullshitting.' Bullshitting/lying is part of investigative tactics.
 
Greggorial said:
This may explain what's going on

For All to Read

Dont know if anyone has seen this yet...




DEC 15--WASHINGTON, DC –

DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy today announced the arrest of Albert Saltiel-Cohen, owner of three of the world’s largest anabolic steroid manufacturers, as part of the largest steroid enforcement operation in U.S. history. Operation Gear Grinder is a 21-month Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF) investigation that targeted eight major steroid manufacturing companies, their owners, and their trafficking associates. By reviewing the sources of all seized and analyzed steroids submitted to the DEA’s forensic laboratories, DEA intelligence analysts and diversion investigators found that 82 percent of the steroids seized and analyzed are of Mexican origin. A large majority of those 82 percent seized and analyzed steroids originate from the eight companies identified in Operation Gear Grinder. These businesses conducted their sales via the Internet, and DEA estimates their combined total U.S. steroid sales are $56 million per year.

“Steroid traffickers market their product by luring young people with promises of enhanced performance and appearance,” DEA Administrator Karen P. Tandy said, “but what they don’t say is the illicit use of these harmful drugs can destroy the very bodies that they are supposed to improve. Drug traffickers prey on the belief that steroids enhance ability, but steroids only rob that ability, as we have seen so often from the affected lives of too many youth and professional athletes.”

Operation Gear Grinder is part of the Virtual Enforcement Initiative, a coordinated DEA effort to target illegal Internet drug trafficking, which was launched in April with Operation Cyber Chase and continued in September with Operation CYBERx. DEA’s cyber initiative acknowledges drug traffickers are embracing the use of 21 st century technology to further spread their virus into U.S. communities.

The steroid manufacturers involved in this investigation tried to mask the true consumers of these products by marketing them as being developed and sold for use in animals. The veterinary manufacturers (“laboratorios”) took notice of the demand for anabolic steroids and created a marketing strategy tailored to the needs of the U.S. consumer – to include high-quality products and internet websites. Communications via the Internet and parcel distributions were the core of these companies’ operations. The websites showcase the products and offer an email address to exchange prices and tracking numbers, and give ordering and payment instructions.

These eight companies used U.S.-based email addresses and listed each manufacturer utilizing a business website to place their products in the hands of American consumers. Some manufacturers provided direct referrals to distributors through the Contact Us section of the websites. The steroids were smuggled into the United States, and shipped to customers. In addition, steroids from the eight companies were also shipped to U.S. traffickers, who re-sold the products to their customers. Financial transactions were primarily done via Western Union wire transfers, as well as bank transfers and credit card payments.

These groups also supplied numerous pharmacies along the U.S./Mexico border, where U.S. customers could purchase steroids and smuggle them back across the border into the United States.

In addition to the Saltiel-Cohen arrest and indictments, DEA today arrested 4 steroid trafficking suspects in San Diego and Laredo, TX. As part of Operation Gear Grinder, DEA also identified over 2,000 U.S. customers that have received steroids from the businesses indicted today. These customers consist of individual users, street-level dealers, and organized trafficking groups in dozens of cities across the country.

The Southern District of California has issued indictments charging the companies and individual defendants with the following:Title 21, U.S.C., Secs. 952, 960 and 963 - Conspiracy to Import Anabolic Steroids; Title 21, U.S.C., Secs. 846 and 841(a)(1) - Conspiracy to Distribute Anabolic Steroids; Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 2; Title 18, U.S.C., Secs. 1956(h) and 1956(a)(1)(A)(I) - Conspiracy to Launder Money; Title 21, U.S.C.,Sec. 853(a), Title 18, U.S.C.,Sec. 982 and Title 21, U.S.C.,Sec. 853(p) - Criminal Forfeiture.

Manufacturing Targets

1. Companies: Quality Vet, Denkall, and Animal Power
Owners: Alberto Saltiel Cohen, Joaquin Garcia Rivas, and Javier Garcia de la Pena.
These manufacturers are significant U.S. suppliers of Nandrolone

2. Company: Laboratorios Tornel
Owner: Luis Bravo-Tornel
Manager: Mauricio Bravo-Berentsen
This manufacturer is a top U.S. supplier of Testosterone Decanoate

3. Company: Laboratorios Brovel
Owner: Arturo Bravo-Valdes
This manufacturer is a top U.S. supplier of Nandrolone Decanoate

4. Company: Pet’s Pharma
Owner: Ramon Vargas
Co-Owner-Eduardo Hernandez
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Testosterone Enanthate

5. Company: Syd Group
Owner: Armando Guzman-Armenta
Associate: Amalia Lara
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Stanozolol

6. Company: Loeffler
Officer: Jose Angel Garcia-Hinojosa
This manufacturer is a top U.S. source of Methandrostenolone


Operation Gear Grinder was coordinated by the DEA Special Operations Division. DEA offices in San Diego, Mexico City, Tijuana, New York, Houston, San Antonio, and Laredo, Texas participated in the investigation.

This investigation was a collaborative effort involving DEA, numerous U.S state and local law enforcement agencies, and the Mexican Federal Agency of Investigation (AFI).
__________________
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,178853,00.html

just read this myself, sounds like this instance may be related...
 
pitbullstl said:
lol.......settle down nancy.


Also......lol @ someone letting the DEA/FBI/COPS in their house without a warrant......finally LOL @ someone freaking out about 40 ML of gear getting confiscated.

Unless you're not telling the whole story, and you're a dealer, re-mailer, or money man........settle down....the DEA doesn't give a fuck about you.
That's what I was thinking. They just busted an organization that they say makes 56 million a year I doubt they have time to worry about 4 little bottles.
 
lardo5150 said:
three of them, basically knocked on the door, had a picture of me and asked to come in. I did not get arrested. They asked me questions, asked if I had anymore in the house, I gave them what I had.
I asked if I was giong to jail or anything they said no. They said the investigation is geared towards some supplier. they said they would be knocking on doors all day for this.
I called the guy later on cause I was so scared shitless, I asked him if he can get me any info, he said that dont sweat it, you are not going to jail.

What do you guys think, am I going to jail? He said the worst that could happen is that later on down the road I could get booked, but it probrally wont happen.

DOnt worry about it. But keep some lube anyway. I heard county jail bubbas were the worst.... j/k
 
lardo5150 said:
three of them, basically knocked on the door, had a picture of me and asked to come in. I did not get arrested. They asked me questions, asked if I had anymore in the house, I gave them what I had.
I asked if I was giong to jail or anything they said no. They said the investigation is geared towards some supplier. they said they would be knocking on doors all day for this.
I called the guy later on cause I was so scared shitless, I asked him if he can get me any info, he said that dont sweat it, you are not going to jail.

What do you guys think, am I going to jail? He said the worst that could happen is that later on down the road I could get booked, but it probrally wont happen.

First keep your house, car and pockets clean.
If you have some juice trash it, but not on your house trash, as it will be found.
Do they specifically mentioned steroids?, sometimes they make random visits looking for recreational drugs.
And yes, you made the big mistake: show fear.
 
gotmilk said:
bye bye Denkall, Tornel, QV, and Brovel


I doubt that. Anybody with an organized criminal empire this big will have a contingency plan in place for when shit like this happens. Think about it-when John Gotti got busted, did his business immediately fold??? Hell no. He even continued to run it from inside the joint.

My guess is they'll all be back up and running within a week under different names/locations/etc. Unlike small time dealers, these guys can afford attorneys to delay their cases and possibly even allow them to continue doing business throughout their trials. However, I think they'll develop a way of screening their clients a little better from now on.

There has to be some loophole where you can still buy this stuff if you have an RX, or maybe a stable of livestock? Years ago I knew guys that bought a glue factory horse and boarded it somewhere for a monthly charge so they could legally purchase anabolics, painkillers, etc. and they never had any probs w/ Johnny Law.
 
I am locking this up.

Why?

It was what? 11 pages and the source was not named. It is not doing anyone any good then. We have all given him all the advice we can. What more can we do?

I am not accusing but the last time a big bust like this went, someone read it on the news/other board and immediately jumped on making posts about how they were questioned/raided/arrested/controlled delivery. Some people do this just for attention or to stir paranoia. I hope I am wrong in this case. No, actually I hope I am right. Because then this individual will have just made a nonsense posting and will have no charges against him.

We see the big guys have been busted, but I can assure you they were not sitting around mailing out individual packages to anyone. If it was indeed a source (a.k.a distributor) that his info was obtained from and a case is being formed against like the poster claims, why is the name being withheld?

And to the guy that suggested I edit my post? Pfffttt... since when does AAP edit anything he ever says?
 
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