Dbol+Winny cycle

[redzulu]

Hello everyone, this is my first post here on the forums and glad to be here.
Would like advice on the following cycle.

Do Dbol for 4 weeks at 50mg ED and than from week 3 to 6 Winny at 100mg ED.

Cycle lasting 6 weeks ... Proviron taken ED at 80-100mg for the 6 weeks to help with water retention and harden muscles plus it's anti-aromatase.

For the final 2 weeks of the cycle will use a dosage of 150-180g ED of Anavar to help boost strength and keep gains.

So its ...

Dbol 50mg ED for 4 weeks [week 1-4]
Winny 100mg ED for 4 weeks [week 3-6]
Anavar 150-180mg ED for 2 weeks [week 5-6]
Proviron 'Mesterlone' 100mg ED for whole cycle


Would stretching the cycle to 8 weeks perhaps make it more productive? than 6 weeks?


It was a toss up about either having dbol or abol but I went for dbol in the end ... I have read about on both and they both seem to work very well and similer ... will try abol at another stage and see how that is.


My aim is bulk ... to keep as much as I can PCT.

Second cycle this will be ... first was on prohormones from October 2006 - December 2006 when I used Halo-D and 13-ethyl-bolan and gained 8lbs in 8 weeks and kept all 8lbs past the PCT ... now well beyond the PCT and all still here touch wood.

Could have gained much more because I was starting back from a 3-4 week break off weights and wasnt hitting the protein/carbs like I should .... but lesson learned!!! at least I kept all my gains.

PCT was P6 Extreme 2006 Edition by Cellucor and Androbolix by Biorythm.
Milk Thistle was taken also alongwith some DHEA.


My PCT for the next cycle would be Nolvedex, Clomid [maybe] and Exemestane.

I hear Clomid is good for helping with the Thyroid after a cycle and thats why I incl it in the PCT. Paravol also will be used to kick start the sex drive and from what I have been told is WILD STUFF!!!!

Other products taken during the AAS cycle are Saw Palmetto for the prostate, Milk Thistle for the liver and DHEA plus velvet deer antler as this increases IGF-1 levels naturally in the body.

So all in all I think this is a nice solid cycle that can get me some big gains and ones that can be kept.

What do you guys think of it?

I did read about a guy who used a Abol+Winny cycle for a similer period and gained 15-20lbs and kept most of it ... dont know which forums though!

Have researched ALLOT of the steroids and other items I have chosen .. not just copied or plucked them from the air ... spoken to a few guys who deal with roids about them and they think it seems okay but want a wider opinion from the members here.


Thanks and glad to be a member here.

PS

My weight is 171lbs at the moment [12 stone] Went from 145lbs [10.5 stone] in May to Dec 2006 which I'm proud of!!!

Know my exercises well now, aint a newbie as such ... makeing good progress and very consistent with my program.

23 Years old.

Aim to bulk and reach 190lbs [13 stone] or slightly more than get ripped.

Play Rugby as a winger and the extra weight would be GREAT!!!

Diet currently is 300G of protein ... 500G of carbs and 100G of fat per day.

During the Cycle I would Increase the protein intake to 500G .. crabs to 700G and fat to ???

Advice on that would be great ... diet during AAS cycle and PCT.

Thanks

 

[Bruce]

wow that might be the worst idea ever. you are gonna destroy your liver, running three 17aa's at once. my lord,

 

[big greg 82]

ya bro way to many orals..

 

[redzulu]

Thats true ... I aint doing injectables yet until I get more oral under my belt ... I also disagree with the saying if you aint ready to inject than you aint ready for the juice ... everyone is different.

The Anavar and Proviron aint too bad on the liver, its the dbol and winny from what I have been told and read which are the worse but its only a 6-8 week cycle, however I understand the risks are their.

 

[bmcadoo44]

Thats true ... I aint doing injectables yet until I get more oral under my belt ... I also disagree with the saying if you aint ready to inject than you aint ready for the juice ... everyone is different.

The Anavar and Proviron aint too bad on the liver, its the dbol and winny from what I have been told and read which are the worse but its only a 6-8 week cycle, however I understand the risks are their.

You are an Idiot. Sorry but if your trying to get "more orals under your belt" all you are doing is wearing your natural muscle receptors for no reason when you could be running an injectable, meaning your cycle would be better, you would get bigger, you would keep more of your gains, and you wont turn into a fat titty bitch with that dbol.

good luck... b-mac

 

[Twoguns]

test enanthate 400mg/week 1-12
Dbol 50mg/day 1-4

if you want run the anavar OR winny from like 11-14 at 50mg per day.

my .02

 

[bmcadoo44]

test enanthate 400mg/week 1-12
Dbol 50mg/day 1-4

if you want run the anavar OR winny from like 11-14 at 50mg per day.

my .02

I would run the winny over the anavar.

 

[redzulu]

Thanks for the input thus far guys.

 

[ironclaw]

Hello everyone, this is my first post here on the forums and glad to be here.
Would like advice on the following cycle.

Do Dbol for 4 weeks at 50mg ED and than from week 3 to 6 Winny at 100mg ED.

Cycle lasting 6 weeks ... Proviron taken ED at 80-100mg for the 6 weeks to help with water retention and harden muscles plus it's anti-aromatase.

For the final 2 weeks of the cycle will use a dosage of 150-180g ED of Anavar to help boost strength and keep gains.

So its ...

Dbol 50mg ED for 4 weeks [week 1-4]
Winny 100mg ED for 4 weeks [week 3-6]
Anavar 150-180mg ED for 2 weeks [week 5-6]
Proviron 'Mesterlone' 100mg ED for whole cycle


Would stretching the cycle to 8 weeks perhaps make it more productive? than 6 weeks?


It was a toss up about either having dbol or abol but I went for dbol in the end ... I have read about on both and they both seem to work very well and similer ... will try abol at another stage and see how that is.


My aim is bulk ... to keep as much as I can PCT.

Second cycle this will be ... first was on prohormones from October 2006 - December 2006 when I used Halo-D and 13-ethyl-bolan and gained 8lbs in 8 weeks and kept all 8lbs past the PCT ... now well beyond the PCT and all still here touch wood.

Could have gained much more because I was starting back from a 3-4 week break off weights and wasnt hitting the protein/carbs like I should .... but lesson learned!!! at least I kept all my gains.

PCT was P6 Extreme 2006 Edition by Cellucor and Androbolix by Biorythm.
Milk Thistle was taken also alongwith some DHEA.


My PCT for the next cycle would be Nolvedex, Clomid [maybe] and Exemestane.

I hear Clomid is good for helping with the Thyroid after a cycle and thats why I incl it in the PCT. Paravol also will be used to kick start the sex drive and from what I have been told is WILD STUFF!!!!

Other products taken during the AAS cycle are Saw Palmetto for the prostate, Milk Thistle for the liver and DHEA plus velvet deer antler as this increases IGF-1 levels naturally in the body.

So all in all I think this is a nice solid cycle that can get me some big gains and ones that can be kept.

What do you guys think of it?

I did read about a guy who used a Abol+Winny cycle for a similer period and gained 15-20lbs and kept most of it ... dont know which forums though!

Have researched ALLOT of the steroids and other items I have chosen .. not just copied or plucked them from the air ... spoken to a few guys who deal with roids about them and they think it seems okay but want a wider opinion from the members here.


Thanks and glad to be a member here.

PS

My weight is 171lbs at the moment [12 stone] Went from 145lbs [10.5 stone] in May to Dec 2006 which I'm proud of!!!

Know my exercises well now, aint a newbie as such ... makeing good progress and very consistent with my program.

23 Years old.

Aim to bulk and reach 190lbs [13 stone] or slightly more than get ripped.

Play Rugby as a winger and the extra weight would be GREAT!!!

Diet currently is 300G of protein ... 500G of carbs and 100G of fat per day.

During the Cycle I would Increase the protein intake to 500G .. crabs to 700G and fat to ???

Advice on that would be great ... diet during AAS cycle and PCT.

Thanks

you obviously havent done much research, probably got this idea from some idiot in the gym, bro, why don't you consider adding some from of test through the whole cycle, keep the dbol for the first 4 weeks, run it a little longer than 6 - 8 weeks, maybe run it for 10 weeks, the last 4 run winny at 50 mg/day ( not 100 mgs/day because this is your first cycle and you don't need those high dosages) and what is this 150-180 mg of anavar for the last 2 weeks? wtf is that about? I've honestly never ever heard of anyone taking anavar at that dosage before, pros and all, who are you trying to impress? nobody around here I assure you. drop the anavar, and I had to laugh at the velvet deer antler, what the hell is that voodoo shit aobut? where are you getting your information from? do a little more research before you jump on the bandwagon and decide to do a cycle....... there it is, you asked for it, take the advice from the people on this board and rethink your decision. hope this doesn't go in one ear and out the other.

 

[redzulu]

Idea from here http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Oral_only_cycle-_Anadrol%2Fwinny_results!!/m_648955/tm.htm

My aim was a ORAL only cycle for now

Aint sure on dosages hence I ask for ADVICE ... thanks for putting me right.

Velvet deer antler lol aint no voodoo shit ... research it yourself, naturally increases IGF levels ... I cant afford the jabs.

I understand what you say and will listen to the advice.

Thanks for the input

 

[Twoguns]

Idea from here http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/Oral_only_cycle-_Anadrol%2Fwinny_results!!/m_648955/tm.htm

My aim was a ORAL only cycle for now

Aint sure on dosages hence I ask for ADVICE ... thanks for putting me right.

Velvet deer antler lol aint no voodoo shit ... research it yourself, naturally increases IGF levels ... I cant afford the jabs.

I understand what you say and will listen to the advice.

Thanks for the input

bro, you can jab cheaper than anavar orals !!!!

 

[lifthard2005]

Thats true ... I aint doing injectables yet until I get more oral under my belt ... I also disagree with the saying if you aint ready to inject than you aint ready for the juice ... everyone is different.

The Anavar and Proviron aint too bad on the liver, its the dbol and winny from what I have been told and read which are the worse but its only a 6-8 week cycle, however I understand the risks are their.

x 100

 

[georgie24]

please tell me this is a joke

horrible cycle!

do this

test e
dbol first 4 weeks
winny last six weeks

 

[BOOEY]

Why would you put your liver through that mess? don't be afraid of the needle, it's real easy after the first time.

 

[sofakingdel]

its easier to have your butt hurt from a stick, then your liver from failure. I'm not a vet or a guru, but with all the criticism that your proposed cycle is getting I would suggest that you do a lil more research and it will eventually lead to you coming around to you sticking yourself. I was in the same boat a few years ago. I didn't know about this website when I first started using gear, and I spent a lot of time researching aas. I still waisted a lot of time, money, and gains, through experimentation. I also tried all oral, and then finally realized that If i wanted my moneys worth I had to use the pinz. You're lucky to have found a place where you can acquire good knowledge, and help, early in your juice endeavors so take advantage of it.

 

[Twoguns]

please tell me this is a joke

horrible cycle!

do this

test e
dbol first 4 weeks
winny last six weeks

OK Bro, you got two people telling you the exact same thing, can't be a coincidence. Trust us.

 

[52_21_30]

Nah bro here's what you need:

Anadrol 500 mg per day for 4 weeks
Halotestin 1000 mg per day for 25 years

They're both liver friendly and will yield some nice, steady gains. Should get you up to 180 lbs in no time

 

[matty420]

Nah bro here's what you need:

Anadrol 500 mg per day for 4 weeks
Halotestin 1000 mg per day for 25 years

They're both liver friendly and will yield some nice, steady gains. Should get you up to 180 lbs in no time

i just came off of a 25 year adrol/halo cycle. i gained 240 lbs. of lean muscle

 

[mm107]

Dude listen to everyone's advice here. Stay away from orals. They do have their place/time but too many at one time never will

 

[solidspine]

Drop the Anavar and Proviron

add test

 

[average_ash]

i can see your in the same country as me, you dont even have to pay for needles,barrels or alcohol swabs, (you can find your local needle exchange) so theres no extra money involved there, and test is dirt cheap in england!

 

[52_21_30]

yeah but you're forgetting the "I'm too much of a pussy to inject" factor

 

[Dr. JK]

Nah bro here's what you need:

Anadrol 500 mg per day for 4 weeks
Halotestin 1000 mg per day for 25 years

They're both liver friendly and will yield some nice, steady gains. Should get you up to 180 lbs in no time

LOL that's funny shit man!!

 

[lifthard2005]

Nah bro here's what you need:

Anadrol 500 mg per day for 4 weeks
Halotestin 1000 mg per day for 25 years

They're both liver friendly and will yield some nice, steady gains. Should get you up to 180 lbs in no time

wait bro, he doesnt have enough orals under his belt yet! LOL

 

[bighippie11]

Thats true ... I aint doing injectables yet until I get more oral under my belt ... I also disagree with the saying if you aint ready to inject than you aint ready for the juice ... everyone is different.

The Anavar and Proviron aint too bad on the liver, its the dbol and winny from what I have been told and read which are the worse but its only a 6-8 week cycle, however I understand the risks are their.

dude you're an idiot...this is why people end up in the hosipital is because they listen to ignorant meat heads like you...8 weeks on 3 17aa's is an extremely long time for your liver to be constantly taking that beating...pshh only 8 weeks? wtf

 

[ben dovergurl]

fuck it...take em. everybody learns the hard way.

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Dude I used to hate needles too bro, then I tried it and wow it was not that bad at all. that was some years ago now I cant wait for the next poke LOL....


Relax bro do a Test/Winny and you will be thanking everyone later ....