i didn't get any hair loss problem on dbol at 35mg's ED for 5 weeks. when i added in the winny at like 100mg ED on week 5-8, i DID have a hair loss problem. so for ME dbol is no prob on the hair/acne/etc. what i did was this, dbol 35mg ED for 5 weeks, winny 2 IP a day for weeks 5-8......1/2 tab real zeneca arimidex ED the whole while on dbol. then immediately after, i hit the anavar at 50mg ED for a few weeks, and will be on it at 75mg ED for about two more months. so you could do something similar....take the dbol for a month or so and get your size going, then solidify it with the papervar for a few months post dbol cycle. i think you will be pleased with this. dbol only WILL work if you solidify it with winny/anavar or whatever post cycle. of course it would be a lot easier to do it the conventional way.....but if you got the papervar and can get the dbols easy....this is a legit way to do it.