Dbol Vs. Winstrol for solid gains.

[JUICEMAN]

I have a question that I have been debating for a long time. I finished a sust/dbol/EQ cycle and I seemed to shrink some after the cycle was over (surely due to the loss of water retention). I am planning my next cycle, and am trying to put on a lot of keepable LBM. I realize that your total weight gain while on the Dbol is more, due to the water, but as far as LBM goes, is there really any difference in the net muscle gain between the winstrol and Dbol once the water retention is eliminated?
Any help given is appreciated.

 

[lawnsaver]

Mg for Mg, winstrol will put on more LBM hands down!

Go with a test/fina/winny cycle for LBM.

 

[JUICEMAN]

Actually, that is the exact cycle I am thinking of doing.

Weeks (1-10) 500mg test
(5-10) 75mg fina/ day
(5-10) 50mg winny/day
(1-10) 10mg Nolv. day
-- Clomid --

I am trying to decide what kind of test to go with. I want as little water retention as possible. I was thinking of prop at 75mgs/day. any opinions?

also, can I mix all three into the same syringe? I know that you can with most , but how about with a water and an oil based?

 

[DiaBOLic86]

My last cycle was a 8 wk anavar and winny cycle at 50 mg ED. I gained 15, lowered body fat , so i was happy, but I had a hard time keeping my gains afterwords. However, I believe a lot of it was due to having to work hard through the summer. You should get some solid gains off a winny/fina stack.

 

[NewGuy1980]

So if I just do a winny fina stack

winny 50 MG ed for 8 weeks
fina 75MG EOD for 6 weeks
clomid post cycle.

what can i expect if my diet and training is based on bulking. I know i should add test in there, but its a tradeoff for $$$. I got laid off so now its winny/fina. or test/fina. But if i go test/fina I will have to get nolvadex and proviron cuz I am very suseptable to water retention. Which one would you go with.

 

[wrj]

So if I just do a winny fina stack

winny 50 MG ed for 8 weeks
fina 75MG EOD for 6 weeks
clomid post cycle.

what can i expect if my diet and training is based on bulking. I know i should add test in there, but its a tradeoff for $$$. I got laid off so now its winny/fina. or test/fina. But if i go test/fina I will have to get nolvadex and proviron cuz I am very suseptable to water retention. Which one would you go with.

I'd take the fina ED for sure or 150mg EOD at least. I would go with the winny/fina combo if your not woried about havin sex but if sex is key to survival for you as it is for me then I'd take a dose of 200mg/wk of test starting week two to keep your johnson workin. Good luck.

WRJ

 

[ZeroCool]

Actually, that is the exact cycle I am thinking of doing.

Weeks (1-10) 500mg test
(5-10) 75mg fina/ day
(5-10) 50mg winny/day
(1-10) 10mg Nolv. day
-- Clomid --

I am trying to decide what kind of test to go with. I want as little water retention as possible. I was thinking of prop at 75mgs/day. any opinions?

also, can I mix all three into the same syringe? I know that you can with most , but how about with a water and an oil based?

Prop..........

 

[rocketrman]

bro try this:

wks 1 & 2 1000mg test
wks 3 - 5 500mg (750 preferably )
wks 6 - 10 50-75mg/day test prop

continue tren & winnys as planned.

good luck !

 

[JUICEMAN]

Any other suggestions on the type of test to use?

Also, with the above cycle do you think that it will be possible to put on 15-20 lbs. LBM with the proper diet and training, or do you think that is a little unrealistic?