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If somebody had to use one or the other of these as occasional supplements, but not for mass gaining, let's say it was mostly for recovery and better well-being, what would one use?
I am currently not lifting much after my shoulders starting aching really bad. It was time for some time off. I'm on deca 250/wk for 8 weeks or so in order to heal up the joints hopefully, and by week 4, the stuff seems to be working and maintaining muscle while getting more cut. In the meantime, I'm pursuing some contact sports interests.
I ran Dbol at 30mg ED for the 1st 4 weeks, well, maybe I tapered it a little to 20 ED during the 4th wk cuz the hairloss was getting to me.
So, what I am asking is, which of the various tests out there would most closely mimic Dbol's overall effects? The reason I ask is because my athletic recovery is phenomenal on Dbol...if I have an elbow strain, for example, I can treat it with less than 10mg of DBol for a couple days and it goes away. Minor injuries heal quickly like when I was 10 years younger.
But, Dbol has consequences for the liver. I'm doing submission wrestling and BJJ and it would be helpful to use compounds when needed which would permit types of lower dosing schemes while avoiding too many side effects. Dbol alone might be ok, but it has liver issues for prolonged usage. For any test, obviously, the prostate and hairline issues remain, but I have finasteride that I would be using but/for the fact that I'm on deca right now. Plus, the shutdown from deca is pretty harsh as I can feel...I'm worried about any PCT being more than a gamble with this stuff if you really want to come 100% "off." But, I'm using deca for healing, not bulking.
So, which tests would ppl recommend? I mean, this is more of an overall maintenance minded cycling system here, where you're not full on but using to take wear & tear better, like a competitive athlete would do, instead of a lifter. Cycles we see on here are mostly for gaining maximum mass...who knows much about how an athlete would work cycles and use which compounds? I want recovery rate above all else with minimum sides.
Any suggestions? I have no qualms about injectables, obviously, but I want a juice that mimics Dbol (hopefully avoiding the liver issues) in terms of overall well-being effects. Comments...or is dbol just the best drug ever invented by mankind? Dbol alone would certainly be feasible assuming I ran Tyler's, finasteride, and clomid/HCG, or tried those 2 on/2 off deals or 3 on/1 off or whatever those guys were suggesting (albeit with test prop or something like that).
So, gimme what ya got. Thanks.
I am currently not lifting much after my shoulders starting aching really bad. It was time for some time off. I'm on deca 250/wk for 8 weeks or so in order to heal up the joints hopefully, and by week 4, the stuff seems to be working and maintaining muscle while getting more cut. In the meantime, I'm pursuing some contact sports interests.
I ran Dbol at 30mg ED for the 1st 4 weeks, well, maybe I tapered it a little to 20 ED during the 4th wk cuz the hairloss was getting to me.
So, what I am asking is, which of the various tests out there would most closely mimic Dbol's overall effects? The reason I ask is because my athletic recovery is phenomenal on Dbol...if I have an elbow strain, for example, I can treat it with less than 10mg of DBol for a couple days and it goes away. Minor injuries heal quickly like when I was 10 years younger.
But, Dbol has consequences for the liver. I'm doing submission wrestling and BJJ and it would be helpful to use compounds when needed which would permit types of lower dosing schemes while avoiding too many side effects. Dbol alone might be ok, but it has liver issues for prolonged usage. For any test, obviously, the prostate and hairline issues remain, but I have finasteride that I would be using but/for the fact that I'm on deca right now. Plus, the shutdown from deca is pretty harsh as I can feel...I'm worried about any PCT being more than a gamble with this stuff if you really want to come 100% "off." But, I'm using deca for healing, not bulking.
So, which tests would ppl recommend? I mean, this is more of an overall maintenance minded cycling system here, where you're not full on but using to take wear & tear better, like a competitive athlete would do, instead of a lifter. Cycles we see on here are mostly for gaining maximum mass...who knows much about how an athlete would work cycles and use which compounds? I want recovery rate above all else with minimum sides.
Any suggestions? I have no qualms about injectables, obviously, but I want a juice that mimics Dbol (hopefully avoiding the liver issues) in terms of overall well-being effects. Comments...or is dbol just the best drug ever invented by mankind? Dbol alone would certainly be feasible assuming I ran Tyler's, finasteride, and clomid/HCG, or tried those 2 on/2 off deals or 3 on/1 off or whatever those guys were suggesting (albeit with test prop or something like that).
So, gimme what ya got. Thanks.
