Dbol+Var vs. Var Only

[wootoom]

hey guys just wondering about it. i have never done anything but var and was thinking of a low dose of dbol. i was thinking of a high dose of var lets say 60mg/ed alone or 20mg/ed of Dbol and 50mg/ed of var. what i really want to know with a high protein clean diet, lots of rest hard training would i gain good weight off 20mg/ed of Dbol??? or should i just stick to var only? opinions please.

 

[Mavy]

Eh bro ... read these threads ...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314789&page=1&pp=20

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=337680&highlight=Extra+strength+var

I have ran the two of them together and was very happy. Get the ratios right, and it just really feels like extra-strength var. Var with a little extra kick. Its like the dbol almost enhances the var. Just get the ratios right so its mostly var with a little push from the dbol. Not the most common stack, but i liked it, and will definatly do it again. If I had to choose between the two of them, I would take 25mg of dbol over 50mg of var anyday. Read those threads, may be some good info there for ya.

Good luck,
Mavy

 

[wootoom]

thanks Mavy was lookin for your input. what do you call it? Supervar? Nice

 

[wootoom]

will you see many sides of 20mg/ed of Dbol? thats the obnly thing im scared of. thats why i have stayed away. i dont want gyno a whole bunch

 

[biggeek]

you shouldn't see many sides from 20mg ed of dbol.. atleast not estro related sides.. always wanna be careful with the liver.. but that's obvious if your running two orals.. sounds like a great cycle.. and since you said you've done var only so far.. it's time to step up a little.. you won't regret it..

If your really worried about the gyno and such.. get some Liquidex.. and run it like .25mg or .5mg eod or so.. maybe even e3d.. just enough to keep the estro under control but not suppress it.. because it will suppress gains a good bit.. i recently did a test prop cycle and ran liquidex too high and when your estro drops too low it can make you feel like crap.. but anyway..

Fill us all in whenever you decide to start this cycle.. you looking to cut up on this or bulk? What kind of diet? Take it easy man and good luck

 

[TallB4Small]

Hey guys, i was wanting to know... how are you taking your dosages? i heard u shouldnt take 2 diffrent orals in the same day? im also taking var right now at 40mg ed. Right now im in my 2nd week, im thinking around week 4 starting a small dosage of dbol along with the var... do you think this would be pointless? im gonna run it for the remainder of my cycle which is 5 - 6 more weeks... do i need to lower my dosage of var? I was thinking of running just like 20 mg ed of Dbol.
As much help with this as possible would be excellent, sorry to come in on an old post.

 

[turbogreek]

ok guys...dbol@15mg/day & var @40mg/day...what is a safe duration for this cycle? since the dbol is pretty low enough to not be toxic and var is fairly safe too, could you run this for say 6 or 8 weeks? yo mavy...how long have you run the 2 togeter? i read both of those threads and it seems like a mint idea for a next cycle. i was gonna do dbol/sust but this "supervar" is a lot more interesting.

 

[Djicy]

Mavy I was actually thinking bout running this for my next cycle but was going to do 4 weeks of Dbol and 4 of Var but I like your idea let me see if I got this correct

1st 10 days 25 mg dbol next 10 50 mg Var. Thats almost 3 weeks then you put together the Dbol and Var for how many more weeks? Then what kind of PCT you looking at? Any more info wouldbe great I'm really thinking about this cycle it sounds nice!!

 

[wootoom]

i dont get it. why are people concerned about taking 2 orals together at low doses????? i took a cycle of var at 75/mged. i am planning on a var 50mg/ed and 20mg/ed of dbol. whats he difference? its going to be equal as hard on the liver.

 

[Djicy]

i dont get it. why are people concerned about taking 2 orals together at low doses????? i took a cycle of var at 75/mged. i am planning on a var 50mg/ed and 20mg/ed of dbol. whats he difference? its going to be equal as hard on the liver.

Could you give a sample cycle of that please?

 

[wootoom]

i did.

dbol@20mg/ed with Var@50mg/ed or
Var only@ 75mg/ed whats the difference? there both going to be the same stress are they not? if anything the dbol and var will be less stressful

 

[wellbilt]

iam with you too on this wooo i dont think it would be any harder on the liver if your dosages are reasonable

 

[Slyder190]

Seems like a stupid idea honestly. You'll get all the same strength gains if not more from d-bol, but you'll also hold a ton of water and miss out on the hardening effect of the var.

 

[TallB4Small]

I was just told that about the orals, im kinda new to this. if u took 40mg ed Var, 20 mg ed dbol.... would u do it like.... 20mg var & 10mg dbol in the AM and same in the PM?

 

[wootoom]

Seems like a stupid idea honestly. You'll get all the same strength gains if not more from d-bol, but you'll also hold a ton of water and miss out on the hardening effect of the var.

ya but with a LOW dose of Dbol you wont hold much water will you?

 

[TallB4Small]

i dont mean to annoy anyone, but can someone answer my post?

 

[wootoom]

would you look and feel bloated off 20mg/ed of dbol? never done it before.

 

[wootoom]

I was just told that about the orals, im kinda new to this. if u took 40mg ed Var, 20 mg ed dbol.... would u do it like.... 20mg var & 10mg dbol in the AM and same in the PM?

thats what i would do

 

[Mavy]

i dont mean to annoy anyone, but can someone answer my post?

Ya bro ... many people like to take their full dose all at once, but I like to equally distribute the dosings out throught the day as evenly as possible. More of a concern to me with dbol than the Ox. Oral Active half-life of Ox is around 9 hours, where with dbol its 4.5-6 hours.

 

[Djicy]

i did.

dbol@20mg/ed with Var@50mg/ed or
Var only@ 75mg/ed whats the difference? there both going to be the same stress are they not? if anything the dbol and var will be less stressful

Sorry meant to ask how many weeks you do it for?

 

[boston basher]

Sorry meant to ask how many weeks you do it for?

I would run that for 8 weeks, I would also suggest some PCT.

 

[wootoom]

Sorry meant to ask how many weeks you do it for?

i would do it for 10-12 weeks with proper liver protectants like Liver Detox etc

 

[TallB4Small]

Thanks for the Help MAVY!!