Dbol or Propionate?

[joeljuice]

I'm going to start my second cycle on august. It will have Enanthate, Eq and Prop or Dbol. I'm 22 years old with very tight hair and like to keep it that way too. I'm pretty paranoid with this. So i want to use Propionate or Dbol to kick start in my cycle. I know that the Dbol is stronger than Propionate, but however it is bad for hair. I will use Proscar to avoid possible hairloss from test. But proscar wont do anything to hairloss from Dbol, so i was thinking that mayebe topical spirolactone would be good anti androgen or is it? I want to hear your opinion and experiences. Will spiro block the hairloss from Dbol, or is flutamide better?


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I will also use arimidex and 3 weeks clomid therapy starts 3 weeks after last shot. Training routine will be Heavy Duty 3*week and i will eat shitloads of good food and protein. Goals are:

1. To have lots of new muscle, like growing my arm from 16 to 18 inch.

2. to have more strenght, like bench from 280 to to 330.

3. to keep my hair like they are now.

So what do you think, would you use propiopnate or dbol for kick start and is there much difference in 35mg dbol ed and 100mg propionate eod.

 

[anabolic24/7]

I have never had any AS effect my hair, loosing it or growing extra. I guess I'm lucky that way. Done dbol @ 50mg a day for 4 weeks, and it's fun at the start of a cycle.
You may not suffer hair damage either, if you notice ANY hair falling out I would stop. Like I said, I've not lost a single hair to dbol.

 

[joeljuice]

I guess i just have to play with fire and see what happens

Any more opinions or experiences?

 

[serge]

run dboll throughout the cycle, not just at the start

 

[1abbig]

i have never had hair loss due to dbol use or prop use. i have used 50mg dbl for 5 weeks and prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks. i like dbol much better then prop. i would not run dbol all the way through 4-5 weeks at 30mg ed is sufficient.

 

[joeljuice]

Come on bro's this is big decission to me.

 

[1abbig]

run the dbol cycle.

 

[joeljuice]

run the dbol cycle.

I guess i could try for 30mg if it is enough. I will use spirolactone and see if it works.

I wondert that if it will cause hairloss for me and i stop taking it immediately, then how long the hair will be falling of?

 

[joeljuice]

What about the gains. Am i waiting too much from this cycle? My first cycle was Deca 400mg for 8 weeks and it gaved me slight strenght increases and water, but not much of muscle. I was bit disapointed.

I'm hoping to have 20lbs muscle and off course lot of strenght and keep them too. I guess i will use clenbuterol post cycle too keep gains better.

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Well i hope that i achieve my goals.

 

[joeljuice]

bumb

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

use the d-bol, and another thing stay away from anadrol for your hair.

 

[bodygrowth]

I have this hair problem to and I recomend to use
proscar and joeljuice I have big experience with hair loss
preventing products and believe me proscar is the best choise. This medication blocks test convertation to DHT,which kills hair.When dianabol is taking,DHT levels rise extremely fast!

 

[NinjaX]

thats a nice cycle bro, keep us posted on the results

 

[MUSTANG_18]

I have done a D-Bol, Test, Eq and noticed no loss in hair. I would go with the D-Bol, that is a great cycle and will pack on some awesome mass.

M18

 

[bodygrowth]

Mustang,you have noticed no loss in hair,couse you
don't have a genetical predisposition to hair loss and
for that reason rising of DHT levels don't effect your hair.

 

[ironmaster]

Well. I'm a propionate advocate, personally. Perhaps my favorite test of all. Quick results, without dbol bloat. I've used dbol off and on for 30 years, and just don't get much out of it anymore......I don't know if that is because today's version isn't as good, or because I am resisitant to it, but prop gains are of better quality and longer lasting, in general, anyway.
If i'm going with a oral to start off a cycle, it will be anadrol.

 

[RADAR]

i've taken dia-bol also the only hair i lost was tangled up in the comb! RADAR

 

[NYStrip]

Well. I'm a propionate advocate, personally. Perhaps my favorite test of all. Quick results, without dbol bloat. I've used dbol off and on for 30 years, and just don't get much out of it anymore......I don't know if that is because today's version isn't as good, or because I am resisitant to it, but prop gains are of better quality and longer lasting, in general, anyway.
If i'm going with a oral to start off a cycle, it will be anadrol.

30 years of dbol. Ironmaster, you are an animal, bro. I've done one cycle with dbol, and I have to admit, I'm very disappointed. I'll give it one more chance, and if it turns out to be another waste of money, it's going on my list of shitty steroids, along with winny. I go over 6 plates, so maybe minimum effective dosages are a lot more sensitive to weight than we think? Going on week 9 of 600mg of EQ, and it took me a good 6 weeks to see anything off of it.

 

[ironmaster]

I'm just an old fart, NY. But I swear, the old blue ciba dbol was outstanding.......I can eat Thai's like candy and not get the results that 25-30mg. gave.

 

[bigmarco]

I am not a great cycle creator. I would front load the test at 1 gram the first week.

Another good option is to use the d-bol cycle with Prop in the first week to get the test level up quickly.

Then use Prop in the last two weeks to clear quicker and start the Clomid a week later to solidify the gains.

Maybe some of the vets can write it out.

Good luck

 

[Mike80]

I love d-bol, so I cannot advocate against it's use. go with the d-bol

 

[NYStrip]

I'm just an old fart, NY. But I swear, the old blue ciba dbol was outstanding.......I can eat Thai's like candy and not get the results that 25-30mg. gave.

Same here on the Thai's. I was up to 40mg and didn't get shit off of them. They passed all the tests, btw. I've got to try some of that Cypro 200.

 

[joeljuice]

Thanks for the replys bro's. I'm not sure yet will i use dbol or prop, or maybe both. Anyway i will keep you updated when i start it.

 

[Anabolicum Mister]

I have a feeling that most of you are not susceptible to hairloss...perhaps joel included.

Joel,

If I were you I would give the d-bol a shot. Since you want some good gains from this cycle, I would take 40mg for around 5 weeks. As for the hairloss, if you experience any, you can quit the d-bol as it will be out of your system quickly. Whatever you decide, good luck!

 

[joeljuice]

I have a feeling that most of you are not susceptible to hairloss...perhaps joel included.

Joel,

If I were you I would give the d-bol a shot. Since you want some good gains from this cycle, I would take 40mg for around 5 weeks. As for the hairloss, if you experience any, you can quit the d-bol as it will be out of your system quickly. Whatever you decide, good luck!

I hope so, butl it is hard to tell before it starts. There is some hairloss in my mother's father's family , but not in fathers family. Well i guess i will see it in about month.

And thanks

 

[Shawn]

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Same here on the Thai's. I was up to 40mg and didn't get shit off of them. They passed all the tests, btw. I've got to try some of that Cypro 200.

actually, on the thais, i gained very well..lots of strength and muscle mass, i was only on them for 2 weeks before stopping due to my test not arriving, so i ended it..but man, i took 4 tabs some day 6, and they were underdosed at 3.7mg each, so they worked very well even that low of a dose..

shawn

 

[kingc_79]

i worry bout my hair alot also and i lost a good bit of hair in the begining of my dbol/prop/fina cycle so i got paranoid and dropped the dbol and it stopped, but now i am stuck with a hairline much farther back than before so i wont use dbol again. didnt care for it too much, but prop