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dbol only cycle, why can't I gain weight?
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odoyal rulez
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im not getting any retention either...just counting myself lucky..
not eating salt and drinking a shit load of water helps too
not eating salt and drinking a shit load of water helps too
lol!
CO B-man
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mr.nitro said:
I have actually done that. My fat bloated ass is in my gallery somewhere. The day I did my AI or maybe the second but I swear it was that night I got up to piss like every 1.5 hours that night and lost a lot of weight overnight.
It was then how I learned how these miracle diet drinks that guarantee you lose 10 pounds of weight in the first week. They must dehydrate you. And when you step on the scale you are convince you found the miracle diet drug only to stop taking it and rehydrate your body. Thats my deductive miracle diet crap theory!
solidspine
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I have done the same cycle, and not held a lot of water, for me it depends upon my diet.
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ninesecz
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why the hell are you running deca and eq together?? did you `do anyresearch before starting this cycle?? how many cycles have you done?? I hope like 7-8 to be up to 1500mg test e!! there is no way you need that much test ! there are guys here that have been on the juice for 4-6 years nonstop and still arent running thatmuch!! also at 10-12 weeks you are going to need to up that to2000-2500mg a week to gain cause after 10 weeks at the same dosage test wont do anything anymore!! good luck with that`
BigCracker
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LOL!!! The most active ingredient is the same in every one of those formulas-H2O. It's a dietary breakthrough. Alert the media!!!CO B-man said:
c3bodybuilding
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mr.nitro said:
And no water retention on that insane cycle? I don't care what your diet is like or if you are only on for one week, that would bloat the heck out of anyone without an ai. If your stuff isn't human grade where you know for sure it's real, I would start getting worried. You should have a balloon face from the gram and a half of test and 400mg of deca, let alone 40mg of dbol. Is your stuff ug lab?
mr.nitro
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my stuff is underground lab gear, actually homebrew made by me from powders purchased from leo. I know I will get water retention soon, just wondering when.
eq and deca are known to work well together, I have done my reaserch. do a search on elete, im sure youll find something regarding this.
as for the dose, I have never done this much test before, and I don't recomend it but to say ill have to use 2g next time is rediculous. and even if it was true, its practly free for me to homebrew, so what do I care. cost isn't an issue. not like im the only guy to ever try that much anyway.
By: Author L Rea
[ Q ] What's your idea/experience on using a low dose of eq and deca together say 300mg/EQ and 300mg/Deca?
IMHO they work fine together but I get the occasional argument "they cancel each other out and compete for the same receptor LOL!)
Thanks, and Best Regards from Shine.
A: Only a few years ago many would have replied to this with the silly answer of "...boldenone (EQ/Equipoise) and nandrolone decanoate (deca) are the same in effect so why stack?"
Boldenone
Boldenone is similar to testosterone in anabolic action with only about 50% the aromatization rate (conversion to estrogens). It is only moderately androgenic yet provides a hardening effect commonly realized due to the employment of highly androgenic non-aromatizing AAS (Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids).
Since boldenone increases red blood cell production an increase in vascularity is often reported as well as rapid recovery between work-sets. This is great if the red blood cell count does not reach a point of excess leading to blood clots.
The result of these qualities is a highly anabolic environment with low water retention and few reported cases of gynecomastia (bitch tits). Unfortunately boldenone is a veterinary drug only.
Learn More About Equipoise...
Nandrolone
Nandrolone is a progestin of sorts (having progesterone-like qualities) that aromatizes at about 20% the rate of testosterone. Its aromatization product is a nor-estrogen having much less estrogenic activity. It is more anabolic than testosterone and low to moderately androgenic.
The result of these qualities should be a very high rate of protein synthesis (muscular growth), no female pattern fat deposits or gynecomastia, with a dry and hard look to the physique... but it doesn't. (Huh?)
Since it has progestin qualities the drug is able to interact with progesterone receptors and cause water retention and bitch tits. (But it gets worse) Additionally the progesterone effect can have an inhibitory effect upon libido (Looking semi-hard but not in a manner of speaking).
Learn More About Nandrolone...
Combining The Two
Several AAS users have reported a beneficial value to co-administration of lower dosages of both boldenone and nandrolone in comparison to high dosages of one or the other.
This is due to the resulting degree of negative potential side effect cancellation: The androgenic value of boldenone seems to cancel the anti-libido effect of nandrolone and the reduction in necessary boldenone dosages decreases the excessive red blood cell production concern.
The reduction in progesterone-like activity and reduced total circulating estrogens (from aromatization) also reduces the chances of winning a wet T-shirt contest and a much harder musculature.
My observations have always been that 1.5-2mg per pound of body weight each of boldenone and nandrolone weekly resulted in fewer negative side effects and better lean tissue accruement than 3-4mg per pound of body weight weekly of either alone.
By the way, the idea of canceling each other out is an oxymoron. AAS molecules do not cancel each other; they replace one another in occupying the androgen receptors on/in muscle and other cells.
The period of time an AAS molecule remains in a given androgen receptor (binding time) is determined by its structure... not by what other molecules are around to piss it off. Geez!
eq and deca are known to work well together, I have done my reaserch. do a search on elete, im sure youll find something regarding this.
as for the dose, I have never done this much test before, and I don't recomend it but to say ill have to use 2g next time is rediculous. and even if it was true, its practly free for me to homebrew, so what do I care. cost isn't an issue. not like im the only guy to ever try that much anyway.
By: Author L Rea
[ Q ] What's your idea/experience on using a low dose of eq and deca together say 300mg/EQ and 300mg/Deca?
IMHO they work fine together but I get the occasional argument "they cancel each other out and compete for the same receptor LOL!)
Thanks, and Best Regards from Shine.
A: Only a few years ago many would have replied to this with the silly answer of "...boldenone (EQ/Equipoise) and nandrolone decanoate (deca) are the same in effect so why stack?"
Boldenone
Boldenone is similar to testosterone in anabolic action with only about 50% the aromatization rate (conversion to estrogens). It is only moderately androgenic yet provides a hardening effect commonly realized due to the employment of highly androgenic non-aromatizing AAS (Anabolic/Androgenic Steroids).
Since boldenone increases red blood cell production an increase in vascularity is often reported as well as rapid recovery between work-sets. This is great if the red blood cell count does not reach a point of excess leading to blood clots.
The result of these qualities is a highly anabolic environment with low water retention and few reported cases of gynecomastia (bitch tits). Unfortunately boldenone is a veterinary drug only.
Learn More About Equipoise...
Nandrolone
Nandrolone is a progestin of sorts (having progesterone-like qualities) that aromatizes at about 20% the rate of testosterone. Its aromatization product is a nor-estrogen having much less estrogenic activity. It is more anabolic than testosterone and low to moderately androgenic.
The result of these qualities should be a very high rate of protein synthesis (muscular growth), no female pattern fat deposits or gynecomastia, with a dry and hard look to the physique... but it doesn't. (Huh?)
Since it has progestin qualities the drug is able to interact with progesterone receptors and cause water retention and bitch tits. (But it gets worse) Additionally the progesterone effect can have an inhibitory effect upon libido (Looking semi-hard but not in a manner of speaking).
Learn More About Nandrolone...
Combining The Two
Several AAS users have reported a beneficial value to co-administration of lower dosages of both boldenone and nandrolone in comparison to high dosages of one or the other.
This is due to the resulting degree of negative potential side effect cancellation: The androgenic value of boldenone seems to cancel the anti-libido effect of nandrolone and the reduction in necessary boldenone dosages decreases the excessive red blood cell production concern.
The reduction in progesterone-like activity and reduced total circulating estrogens (from aromatization) also reduces the chances of winning a wet T-shirt contest and a much harder musculature.
My observations have always been that 1.5-2mg per pound of body weight each of boldenone and nandrolone weekly resulted in fewer negative side effects and better lean tissue accruement than 3-4mg per pound of body weight weekly of either alone.
By the way, the idea of canceling each other out is an oxymoron. AAS molecules do not cancel each other; they replace one another in occupying the androgen receptors on/in muscle and other cells.
The period of time an AAS molecule remains in a given androgen receptor (binding time) is determined by its structure... not by what other molecules are around to piss it off. Geez!
c3bodybuilding
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Sometimes powder sources get a bad batch every now and then. Is your sex drive at least going nuts? All that and I would be a horn dog and wanting to hump everything that moves!
And no, just because you went a little overboard on this cycle, doesn't mean you will need to do more and more next time. If anything, you should blow up on this cycle and keep blowing up on it if you ran it again, lol. Good luck on your cycle bro and I hope you get some big gains.
And no, just because you went a little overboard on this cycle, doesn't mean you will need to do more and more next time. If anything, you should blow up on this cycle and keep blowing up on it if you ran it again, lol. Good luck on your cycle bro and I hope you get some big gains.
