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DBOL-Do you really need it???

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THE PROTOTYPE2000

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Guys, my first cycle is going to be Primoteston@500mgs for 10 weeks and EQ@400mgs for 10 weeks. I've spoke to alot of Vets & Mods(on this board and others) the majority of them said leave the Dbol out because it's not necessary to grow. I'm looking to put on 25-30lbs during the cycle and maintain 20lbs post cycle. Should I add it(30mgs a day for 4-5 weeks)? Or save it for next time?-THE PROTOTYPE
 
I'm with Juice. I have only used it for 3 weeks but experienced everything he mentioned plus a very upset stomach. It did make me stronger though.
 
Dbol is my favorite. Nothing gives me better strength or size in such a short amount of time. The side effects can be easily controlled with some armidex.

I wouldn't use Dbol alone, but when used in a stack its great.

Dbol, the breakfast of champions.
 
I love d-bol, but you shouldn't do orals for your first 2 or 3 cycles. My first was 250mg of sustenon for 10 weeks, simple and very effective.
 
juicemunkee said:
I hate d-bol.
It is the oldest and shittiest,2nd most dangerous steroid.
Leave it alone,and WHY the fuck do all you people suggest it to newbies????
D-bol sucks,my reccomendation,leave it,throw it out,but do what you have to do to get rid of it.Would you say a plane designed in the 50's is still good?NO,it is obsolete,just trying to give an example on how dianabol is obsolete.
It wrecks your HPTA,it gives BAD ACNE,it gives HARSH BLOAT,it gives you a VERY HIGH BP,you LOSE MOST GAINS coming off of it.
The only reason it's popular is because it's so dam cheap.
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THANK YOU --WE GET YOUR POINT "YOU" DONT LIKE IT ---NOW SHUT THE F*CK UP.....
how many times you going to cry about it, go back to your deca & primo only

dbol is very effective when put into a stack--as your looking to do---and i would recommend it....i feel nothing but good on it......it really jump starts a cycle by kickin immediately so your already to go by the time the others kick......
......and for the guy crying for the sides---yes dbol does have some sides and there stronger than some others--but it also works better than some others...
 
nicely put ranger...my first cycle had dbol, no sides at 30mg a day...I think it depends on the person. I also belive it is great for adding quick size and jump stating a cycle...I have also used halo with ZERO sides (exept muscle hardness and vascularity...i think depends on the person
 
CW, just curious how you went about jumpstarting with Halo.
I was considering this just this morning. At what dosages were you
using and for how long.
 
Dbol is my favorite,used it for yrs up to 50mg ed no sides minimum blote i'm one who doesn't retain alot of water.Before you throw it out send it 2 me!!!!! RADAR
 
You guys have got to remember that everyone reacts differently to different compounds. I know bros who can take +1000mg of test per week and get big without any gyno.There are some that grow double d's off 250mg of test per week. I think that everyone needs to find out what works for them and what doesn't. I grow like a beast on 50mg/day of d-bol whilst losing bodyfat whilst I couldn't see a cut in my physique when I'm on winstrol.The only way to learn is to try it.To each his own.
 
I’m using 40mg a day of d-bol, starting week three of a primo, test and d-bol cycle.

No negative sides to date, take nolvadex about every third day.

The pump in phenomenal and you get instant size and strength,

It is a nice way to start a mild or medium cycle like mine.
 
bro throw d-bol in at the begging,youll love it.

d-bol is awsome, it give me instant strength. im about to start a 10 week cycle of testoviron and d-bol and i cant wait to start taking the d-bol. the d-bol is the first thing i look forwat to in my cycle,cause it gives me mass strength in the first 4 weeks before the test starts to kick in,and then from there the test takes care of it all.
 
f@$k ya id stay with what you have and wait for your 4th or 5th cyke to mess with the d-bol and when you do so go with liquidex or arimidex.
 
dbol is dope! Gives you fast strength, when the test kicks in it just helps my strength even more, which is awesome for muscle breakdown. when im just kickin back at home on the couch i always feel PUMPED! Dbol is always gonna be a part of my mass cycles.:D
 
no, i use it on my first.. i think dbol is great wether used alone or with something.
i have had great results both ways. start poppin man.
 
hell no, the only way i could see someone not want d-bol in there cycle is cause it a cutting cycle. the main reason people use d-bol is for the quick strengh and quick weight you get off it.another reson is cause your strenght isnt going to as much when your test and eq kickin without the d-bol,with the d-bol you get the advantage of getting your strengh up before the test and eq kick in.
 
Got to agree, I wouldn't even think of touching D-bol for all its sides and the potential liver damage. Newbies should definately not be experimenting with it until a couple of cycles in.
 
Oh yeah! D-Bol rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
LOVE d-bol i even do d-bol only cycles wit great result its is responsible for 90% off my gains and no sides but a slide bit of bloat no elevated liver and that's is without any anti-e at all :D
 
I am not going to tell you should or shouldnt use d-bol,because everyone reacts differently to it.I personally did not like it,I will probably never never use it again after my last cycle.I stacked it with deca,the d-bol bloated me terrible,gave me zits,and I also got gyno from it after 3 weeks of using it.The only weight I gained from it was water it seemed like,I looked terrible when I was on it.I wish I could do that cycle over,I would have stacked the deca with some test cyp.
 
Storm Shadow, 30lbs is possible on a 1st cycle if you eat, sleep, and train correctly. I've seen it happen many times before. Now, all of it won't be muscle. Maybe, 15-20lbs will be muscle and everything else will be water and fat.-THE PROTOTYPE
 
LOOK IT, no newbie should touch shit, if he or she doesn't know what they're getting into...period!

If your going to take "whatever" .. know the drug, ......know the sides, .... know how to counter act the sides....Period!

Everyone may react differently to a certain drug...IE: you may get all the sides... or none of them....

Have all the necessary counteractive on hand ...just in case!

If you find that a particular does not agree with you or you don't like dealing with all the sides that might come from that drug ....don't take it!


Juicemonkey
Why someone that apparently hates d-bol so much as you do would put it into more than one cycle is beyond me.. You are telling us that you had such bad sides from it that you went ahead and put it into another cycle....WHY?
This is not a flame, JM, just curious.
 
BIGbouncer said:
Why not using test prop(testolan) as a kick start instead of dbol??? Much safer....
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Well i will use russian prop to kick start my second cycle. I will use it 50mg eod 3 weeks i also use cyp 500mg and deca 600-400mg.
 
I guess it's dbol's turn to get bashed this month. Last month it was deca's turn. :o

Personally I wouldn't do a cycle without dbol. Using 70mg/day currently with no side effects. Those who complain about the sides aren't using their head. Ever heard of Arimidex/Nolvadex? There's nothing like the feeling that dbol gives you. Strength, pumps, and overall feeling of well being. But if you can't handle it that just leaves more for me...
 
Daeo said:
I guess it's dbol's turn to get bashed this month. Last month it was deca's turn. :o

Personally I wouldn't do a cycle without dbol. Using 70mg/day currently with no side effects. Those who complain about the sides aren't using their head. Ever heard of Arimidex/Nolvadex? There's nothing like the feeling that dbol gives you. Strength, pumps, and overall feeling of well being. But if you can't handle it that just leaves more for me...
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Yep. My friend has had some great results from russian dbol. It is cheap and effective stuff.

Bro you are pretty harcore, 70mg! I will use dbol on my third cycle, probably naposim. I will use only 30-35mg day.
 
joeljuice said:


Yep. My friend has had some great results from russian dbol. It is cheap and effective stuff.

Bro you are pretty harcore, 70mg! I will use dbol on my third cycle, probably naposim. I will use only 30-35mg day.
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Hardcore? Not compared to some on here. I'm getting there though. Retabolil uses 100mg/day. He's my hero... ;)
 
If it's your first cycle you have plenty of drugs - don't trouble yourself over whether or not to add another to an already potent stack. Put all the second guessing effort into your workouts and you will be very content with your results.

15-20 lbs. of muscle is a huge gain in a short period. Go to the grocery store and lay out 20 lbs. of steak and think about it. You'll be pleased with even 10 stacked on your frame. I question whether it's worth trying to gain that much (20 pure muscle/ 25-30lbs total) in a single cycle. It has been done but I don't see the rush - you have your whole life to add more size if you want.

As far as dbol - obviously the opinions vary. It always worked well for me and I was able to keep the majority of the gains when used alone. The 1950's obsolete airplane analogy is shit. Most of the planes in the sky today are 25-30 years old and we haven't really improved on the technology much other than the personal LCD movie player in 1st Class. I've never heard dbol slandered before these internet boards sprung up. I've never heard a lifter I respected slander it either so I take it all with a grain of salt.
 
J U I C E M U N K E E , I understand that you don't like d-bol and thats O.K. But mis informing the people on this board is not. First off D-bol just like most drugs has its sides. Test can cause gyno and has been around for a long time so I guess it is obsolete as well. You can loss gains from just about any AS. With d-bol or any AS the secret is knowing the sides and learning what works to prevent them. The key to useing any AS is to learn everything you possibly can and prepare your self for any sides that might happen.- Superfrk
 
Keep us posted on how the 70mg/day of d-bol works for you, Daeo.

That's an ambitious dose bro. For my next bulk cycle, I'm bringing on the d-bol! Yee Ha!!!!
:p
 
ghans said:
Keep us posted on how the 70mg/day of d-bol works for you, Daeo.

That's an ambitious dose bro. For my next bulk cycle, I'm bringing on the d-bol! Yee Ha!!!!
:p
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I'm beginning week 5 tommorow. I've gained 16lbs since beginning my cycle. Been using .5mg of liquidex/day so I'm not retaining much water. Strength has gone up quite a bit. All in all I'm happy so far. Still have 5 more weeks to go too. Thinking about going up another 10mg/day for my last 2 weeks of dbol... :D
 
Retabolil2 said:
I guess Galenika enanthate works fine for you Daeo! ;)
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I'd say it is :) Up another 3lbs and finally got that 405 bench I've always wanted. And I have 4 more weeks to go still :D ...

It's too bad that my guy stopped carrying it though :( :bawling: ...
 
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This must be some of that "fake", "shit" dbol Vdevil was talking about. I must owe all of my strength gains to the placebo effect. Hope you send him his birthday present so he becomes a believer... :D ;)
 
I've heard nothing but good about d-bol from people who have used it... I've heard you get pumps walking up a flight of stairs... I'm starting it at the beginning of sept, personally, I cant wait! :D
 
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