dbol dilemma......

[rugbybear]

i have been on dbol n deca for three weeks now, 200mg deca 1/wk, wk dbol 20mg/d wk2 dbol 40mg/d wk3 20mg/d.
for the whole time i have had stiff/sore lower back/spinal erectors, is this muscle pump? i havnt eperienced any other soreness or pumpiness anywhere else, but my whole body is real stiff, legs need a good stretch 2/3x/d, this then temporarily alleviates the stiffness in my back, which i have suffered from periodically but never for this long.

anyway the question is this...
i am going snowboarding on jan 10th for one week, and had planned to finish my dbol that week, just before i go. so today i went indoor boarding to practise, to a slope i have been to a couple of times before. wearing my usual boots i got the most squashed feeling from the top of the boots down and after about 5min couldnt feel my feet! so i loosened them and that gave me partial relief, for 5min, then the same problem. had to finish up an hour early because it was getting so bad that i couldnt concentrate on my maneovres.

so should i stop with the dbol? i know that you can get real bloated with dbol and i have put on over 12lbs in these three weeks, so the boots may have been a bit tighter cause of that. the options are to try something else, i am reasonably happy with the gains i have made so far in terms of weight, but do not feel any stronger, this is important as i am a rugby player and would like to push more weight out. maybe something like winny or anavar, its probably too late for any of the long acting esters, but would consider one of the shorter tests, as long as they wouldnt bloat me too much.

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

 

[concordsize]

After you stop the dbol the pumps will stay around for several days!!! SO the choice is yours....

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[paul2110]

This is pretty normal. I get pretty painful lower back pumps with d-bol.

I would come off about 5 days before and take a diuretic to get rid of the water retention.

Would want to be on the slope all bloated up.

 

[rugbybear]

cheers paul2110, what type of diuretic would you recommend?

 

[rugbybear]

bump

 

[ripper2]

quit the dbol/lower the dose and/or hit the anti-E to drop some of the bloat

 

[cartoonman]

normal

 

[RADAR]

Its the pump dbol is famous for,i get it sometimes in my lower legs,quite painful,try adding some liquidex and pure standardized extract milk thistle to combat the pump.!!!!!

RADAR

 

[rugbybear]

cheers RADAR, will try and get some ldex and have some milk thistle on hand, so no one advises to try another AAS then?

 

[javolic]

After you stop the dbol the pumps will stay around for several days......................

for how many days for example???

i have the same problem!!!

 

[Wrongun]

Bro get some Nolva and do 10-20mg ED to reduce water bloat.

As you are in UK this will be easy for you to get quickly and start as soon as you get. Its cheap and readily available

Wrongun!

 

[concordsize]

yes wrongun we get that fact!!!!lol

 

[rugbybear]

cheers for all the replys guys, i have got some nolv coming, have found a herbal diuretic (that is working already) and have decided to drop the dbol for a week, feel less pumpy already, havnt taken any dbol for about 48 hours and have added the milk thistle in, have also asked my source for some winny to fin my cycle with.
does anyone else from uk have probs getting clomid or arimidex?

 

[JoBu]

As for being happy with the 12 lb gains you have so far...be prepared to drop a significant amount of that as you shed the water. You said you're looking for more strength...how about dropping the Dbol and going with anavar? Or test prop for a short acting test. Fina is alwayts nice for strength gains and is especially nice with some test. Decisions decisions...

JoBu

 

[rugbybear]

have asked my source if they can get any var, but he thought it might be way expensive, so have asked that if it is to get me some winny...

 

[Wrongun]

have asked my source if they can get any var, but he thought it might be way expensive, so have asked that if it is to get me some winny...

sounds like a top source you have there. Has trouble getting Clomid, Arimidex, Var does he actually stock anything other than Dbol?

No flame Bro but what source can even think about offering a service with no ancilleries or popular meds?

As a rule never start a cycle unless you have all the items (including PCT and ancilleries) or it could prove problomatic when the time comes (as you have found)

Wrongun!

 

[rugbybear]

sounds like a top source you have there. Has trouble getting Clomid, Arimidex, Var does he actually stock anything other than Dbol?

No flame Bro but what source can even think about offering a service with no ancilleries or popular meds?

As a rule never start a cycle unless you have all the items (including PCT and ancilleries) or it could prove problomatic when the time comes (as you have found)

Wrongun!

yep, trust a newbie to get wrong and go ahead without ancillaries, despite reading about how important they are! i guess that you cant beat hard experience sometimes.

 

[Wrongun]

yep, trust a newbie to get wrong and go ahead without ancillaries, despite reading about how important they are! i guess that you cant beat hard experience sometimes.

Experience is key Bro but you are doiing the right thing by visiting boards like this to learn. Just pick up some PCT and you will be fine

Wrongun!

 

[JoBu]

Var is relatively expensive...but you if you're doing it you should do it right and use the drug most appropriate to give the results you're looking for. Check around for BD var...it's a bargain and tested out slightly over-dosed.

JoBu

have asked my source if they can get any var, but he thought it might be way expensive, so have asked that if it is to get me some winny...

 

[rugbybear]

just found what i think may be a good source, and the price on var is indeed good for the BD stuff, even better if it is slightly overdosed

 

[JoBu]

No doubt!

just found what i think may be a good source, and the price on var is indeed good for the BD stuff, even better if it is slightly overdosed

 

[rugbybear]

ok then,
since i last posted i have almost finished my cycle and have gained 14lbs, at one point it was almost 20, but then started doing cv again and playing and training for rugby and some has fallen off. The pumps have gone and the strength is still there, my dead has gone up by about 30lbs and my bench 20lbs both for 5 reps. The winny i got really got me hard looking and was great for strength, i noticed it straight away. Going away on sat for a week at altitude so will loose some more weight, but will be going back on creatine and HMB after so will hope ti minimise that loss. Next cycle planned for March, not totally decided on what to take yet, some many drugs to see the effects of and only one cycle to plan for.