Dbol, Cyp and Winny, what d u think about it?

[Pichicata_Man]

Here.....

Weeks 1-12: Test Cyp @ 5-600mg/wk
Weeks 1-5: Dbol @ 30mg/d.
Weeks 6-12: Winny @ 50mg/d orally.

Take an AI like Aromasin or AIFM throughout entire cycle.

PCT:

Weeks 11, 12, 13: 3-500iu ED or EOD of Hcg + AIFM or Aromasin

Weeks 14, 15, 16, 17: Clomid @ 50mg/d + AIFM or Aromasin

Weeks 18+: AIFM or Aromasin if needed at lowered dosages.

BMJ

Thanks for the time you took to re-write the cycle, but I just can't go for more that 6 weeks...

 

[MR. BMJ]

What are your goals with cycle...what do you hope to accomplish?

Size?, Leaning up? etc...

BMJ

 

[Pichicata_Man]

Sustanon 250 has
30 mg propionate, 4.5 days half life
60 mg isocaproate, 9 days
60 mg as phenylpropionate, 4.5 days half life
100 mg decanoate) 15 days


Cypionate 12 days
Enanthate 10.5 days

sustanon has a few esters that may kick in a little but if you are going to only do a 6 week cycle i say drop the test. unless you can get a fast acting one.
it is really just a waste.

good luck.

You mean drop the sust to 250 mg/week and keep de dbol, or to drop at all the sust from the cycle???

 

[Pichicata_Man]

What are your goals with cycle...what do you hope to accomplish?

Size?, Leaning up? etc...

BMJ

well, to gain a few pounds, more like 14 - 15 pounds (if more much better, that's why I thought in dbol, to not waiste any time)... I've done a ciclye of 6 weeks before, with cipio 400 mg./week and 150 mg/week winny, and gained about 13 pounds.... I'm 27 years old, 170 punds, height 5.7, with about 15% corporal grease...

 

[Extra_Strong]

You mean drop the sust to 250 mg/week and keep de dbol, or to drop at all the sust from the cycle???

yes drop it all together.

 

[dsh89]

6 weeks is a waste unless you are running prop, period end of story. Why can't you go longer than 6 weeks. The cycle MR BMJ set up for you is perfect, hell I would run that cycle. Even if you use Sust for 6 weeks, you won't get the full benefit because over half of it is in longer acting esters that won't kick in until week 4. And 250mg/ew is weak. Not even worth your time.

 

[AhMadKooL]

6 weeks is a waste unless you are running prop, period end of story. Why can't you go longer than 6 weeks. The cycle MR BMJ set up for you is perfect, hell I would run that cycle. Even if you use Sust for 6 weeks, you won't get the full benefit because over half of it is in longer acting esters that won't kick in until week 4. And 250mg/ew is weak. Not even worth your time.

I agree

 

[Pichicata_Man]

How about if I go with sust for 8 weeks? And in the case that I drop the sust, what other roid should I get in the cycle insted of the sust? how efective would be e 300 mg./week of deca in a cycle of 6 weeks???

 

[dsh89]

Like I said bro refer to MR BMJ's post, that cycle would kick ass. You can run any test for 8 weeks and notice some benefit, but you really aren't tapping into it's full potential. To me, 10 weeks is a minimum. Deca is in a long acting ester as well bro. Unless you are using NPP, you need to run deca 10 weeks as well.

 

[Pichicata_Man]

Like I said bro refer to MR BMJ's post, that cycle would kick ass. You can run any test for 8 weeks and notice some benefit, but you really aren't tapping into it's full potential. To me, 10 weeks is a minimum. Deca is in a long acting ester as well bro. Unless you are using NPP, you need to run deca 10 weeks as well.

So, from your point of view, a cycle, that includes long acting esteres, is no good if it's not taken for at least 10 weeks??? Well, for what I know, of course, it's gonna be much more effective a cycle that last at least for 10 weeks, but I think that with 8 weeks it'll be ok as well, Since I'm not a professional bodybuilder, and this is going to be only my second cycle, i guess I'll get good results as well. I save Mr. BMJ'S cycle for the next one, I also think it's brutal... but is not the time yet, besides, as I said before, I've got some activities in a couple of mounths, and I cannot be on cycle or PCT... Thanks a lot for yor help my friend...