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DBol, anyone else

I never really thought about it but when I first started a cycle I could never understand why I could sleep so well at the beginning and not the end while on. I only noticed this because I think I was born an insomniac. I have drastically improved that (at least 65% with diet and excersize but not completely). I always use D-bol to kick off a bulker. Hmm. I am curious as to why now too.
 
1: Life Sci. 1996;58(7):573-83. Links
Chronic anabolic-androgenic steroid treatment affects brain GABA(A) receptor-gated chloride ion transport.Bitran D, Hilvers RJ, Frye CA, Erskine MS.
Department of Psychology, College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA 01610, USA.

Previous research in this laboratory has shown that chronic treatment of adult male rats with an anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) produced anxiolytic behavior and increased the functional response of cortical gamma-aminobutyric acid(A) (GABA(A)) receptors. The experiments reported here were aimed at further characterizing the effect of chronic AAS exposure on cerebral cortical GABA(A) receptors. Adult male rats were injected with dianabol (1,4-androstadien-17alpha-methyl-17beta-ol-3-one; 10 mg/kg/day, SC) for 4 weeks. A significant decrease in ventral prostate gland weight was found after 2 weeks of dianabol, and returned to control levels 3 and 10 days after steroid discontinuation. Testicular weights decreased throughout the treatment period but reached statistical significance only during the withdrawal period. Serum 3alpha-androstanediol level was marginally increased afer 2 weeks of dianabol injection, and was significantly decreased at 3 and 10 days after withdrawal. GABA-stimulated 36chloride (Cl-) influx in cortical synaptoneurosomes was increased in animals treated with dianabol for 2 and 4 weeks, and remained elevated 3 days after dianabol withdrawal, returning to control levels at withdrawal day 10. The increase in receptor efficacy was associated with a transient increase in receptor sensitivity (inverse of EC50), apparent after 2 weeks of AAS treatment and at withdrawal day 3. In a follow-up experiment, metabolites of dianabol were tested for the in vitro efficacy in potentiating GABA-stimulated Cl- transport. Only 3alpha-androstanedial and androsterone were found to have potent stimulatory effects. The 3beta-reduced metabolites were inactive, as were metabolites that contained a methyl group at the 17alpha position. These results point to significant facilitative effects of dianabol treatment on brain GABA(A) receptors via the metabolic formation of neuroactive steroids.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
1: Life Sci. 1996;58(7):573-83. Links
Chronic anabolic-androgenic steroid treatment affects brain GABA(A) receptor-gated chloride ion transport.Bitran D, Hilvers RJ, Frye CA, Erskine MS.
Department of Psychology, College of the Holy Cross, Worcester, MA 01610, USA.

Previous research in this laboratory has shown that chronic treatment of adult male rats with an anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) produced anxiolytic behavior and increased the functional response of cortical gamma-aminobutyric acid(A) (GABA(A)) receptors. The experiments reported here were aimed at further characterizing the effect of chronic AAS exposure on cerebral cortical GABA(A) receptors. Adult male rats were injected with dianabol (1,4-androstadien-17alpha-methyl-17beta-ol-3-one; 10 mg/kg/day, SC) for 4 weeks. A significant decrease in ventral prostate gland weight was found after 2 weeks of dianabol, and returned to control levels 3 and 10 days after steroid discontinuation. Testicular weights decreased throughout the treatment period but reached statistical significance only during the withdrawal period. Serum 3alpha-androstanediol level was marginally increased afer 2 weeks of dianabol injection, and was significantly decreased at 3 and 10 days after withdrawal. GABA-stimulated 36chloride (Cl-) influx in cortical synaptoneurosomes was increased in animals treated with dianabol for 2 and 4 weeks, and remained elevated 3 days after dianabol withdrawal, returning to control levels at withdrawal day 10. The increase in receptor efficacy was associated with a transient increase in receptor sensitivity (inverse of EC50), apparent after 2 weeks of AAS treatment and at withdrawal day 3. In a follow-up experiment, metabolites of dianabol were tested for the in vitro efficacy in potentiating GABA-stimulated Cl- transport. Only 3alpha-androstanedial and androsterone were found to have potent stimulatory effects. The 3beta-reduced metabolites were inactive, as were metabolites that contained a methyl group at the 17alpha position. These results point to significant facilitative effects of dianabol treatment on brain GABA(A) receptors via the metabolic formation of neuroactive steroids.
And macro comes through with a good scientific study. In english I think it means you sleep better on D-bol! :FRlol:
 
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basically dianabol upregulates GABA transmission, it is anxiolytic. though assuredly as with most things you will find people with the opposite reaction.
 
macrophage69alpha said:
basically dianabol upregulates GABA transmission, it is anxiolytic. though assuredly as with most things you will find people with the opposite reaction.


Funny you should say that, cause when I am on it - I am calm, like I took a small amount of a benzo.

It almost feels the same...............
 
What's the longest anyone has safely run dbol for? 8 weeks?? 10 weeks??

I stick to (4) weeks, and I hop on an off it every few months while on maintenance doses of Test, Eq, etc
 
Not sure how related this might be, but would it change the way GHB affects someone?

macrophage69alpha said:
basically dianabol upregulates GABA transmission, it is anxiolytic. though assuredly as with most things you will find people with the opposite reaction.
 
a creed said:
What's the longest anyone has safely run dbol for? 8 weeks?? 10 weeks??

I stick to (4) weeks, and I hop on an off it every few months while on maintenance doses of Test, Eq, etc
I use test e and EQ as a maintenance dose, too. And I made some d-bol liquid out of everclear and powder, which I've avoided because it tastes like cat shit (from a cat with a bad diet). I may just try to use it that way. How much do you use as a maint dose?
 
I don't have a maintenance dose of DBol - I add it to my Test ever few months for no longer than 4 weeks.

I take 60mg/day

I've tried everything, and DBol is simply my favorite guilty pleasure............
 
a creed said:
sleep like a "baby" while on DBol?

Anyone know the reason behind this?


I never have aproblem sleeping anymore. DBOL always gives me a energetic feeling.
 
ooh how i love dbol. im running it 8 weeks this time around (currently in week 5) @ 80 mgs/day (currently stacking with EQ and Test). i get really really tired throughout the day when im on dbol. and come to think of it, i do sleep pretty well although i do have to get up in the middle of the night to piss (probably cus im drinking a gallon of water/day). yes, i love dbol.
 
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